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To: ManyMoose who wrote (104935)	5/24/2005 1:31:14 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

People who come at you aggressively, no matter how they are dressed, should be dealt with as people who come at your aggressively. Just as people who are nice, are people who are nice, no matter how they are dressed. I'm not sure why we're discussing that. It has nothing to do with stomping on people merely for how they are dressed, or how they act, when those actions don't pose any threat.

To: ManyMoose who wrote (104935)	5/24/2005 1:58:30 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I think there are a couple of things going on with your philosophy that may polarize it a bit more than it should be, really. I am just guessing, but I bet you were not a Vietnam war protestor/hippie type in the sixties. From some things you've said, I have the idea that you were already an adult when our society sort of imploded. I'm wondering if this distance formed part of the way you conceptualize people who are "different." Some of the things you've said suggest that, but of course I could be wrong. As one of those hippie people, I'd like to point out that it is perfectly normal for young people to dress in a way that identifies them with the group they have chosen. Just as the hippies dressed in a way that immediately identified themselves that way, so did all the frat-boy crew-cut plaid-shirt and loafers pro-military people who formed the group they wanted to separate themselves from. People from both groups were immediately classifiable. It is not just outcasts or weirdos who dress or present themselves in a certain way. Conservatives, and everyone else, do, as well. Certainly, the hippies were not trying simply to provoke with their dress, and believed their movement had tremendous value in shaking up a very narrow and rigid and conformist and corrupt society they thought needed to change very quickly. I think they were quite successful at this. Teenagers much more than adults are developing their adult identity, and try a lot of different things on for size. This includes dressing like the group they feel most closely represents their sentiments of the moment. It also almost always includes small acts of rebellion like very weird hair, tattoos and body piercings. I would frankly be much more concerned about a teenager who did not go through this stage--because developmentally it is crucial in creating a full adult--than those who do. I think adults who are permanently weird or rebellious or acting out are a much larger cause for concern.