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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (64456)	5/31/2005 12:58:15 AM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

There are some projects and weapons which have some charcteristics ranging from dubious to the edge of evil. The HARP radio experiments are close to what I would view as dubious. Most of the alternative uses for Harp - radar reflector for being able to see over the horizon, jamming or frying incoming missles - are legitimate and useful military goals. I don't seriously believe the 'mind control' dimmension - the ability of high levels of microwaves to interfer with the nervous system is well know, and the Harp antennas are pointed in the wrong direction. Also, megawatt radio signals are hard to hide - it's like a giant searchlight or one of those Mexican radio stations you can hear everywhere. I would not be surprised to see the US military conduct an experiment on something like - "Pulsed Microwaves and Vehicle Control by Naive Subjects" And the experiment would consist of beaming radar pulses at a section of thinly traveled freeway and seeing who lost control of their cars, and at what power levels and pulse rates. Might have a "cop" (federal employee in a cop uniform and gumball light on a four door Ford sedan) pull over people post skid (or crash) to check their drivers liscence, and thus get data on their age and name, which later can lead to medical history, etc.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (64456)	5/31/2005 1:48:12 AM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

One of the recent events where the US was pretty closer to using provocation was the rise of the Solidarity Union in Communist Poland. Much of the US influence on those events was started by by US trade unions, the AFL-CIO and their projects. I think the unions and the Polish Church acutually got WAY out infront of the Beltway spooks. Besides 9/11 and the Pearl Harbor, which may be in the "deliberate negligence" category.... Provocation OF the US is a consistent theme in US history - 1) The Alamo - many of the participants in the Alamo knew they were being used to provoke, and were at grave risk as a result. This also explains the big names at the Alamo, Davey Crocket, Bowie, etc. 2) The explosion on the Maine - Still not known who did this 3) Lusitania for WW I 4) Gulf of Tonkin ************* Looking at the charter of the P2OG, the item "signal to harboring states that their sovereignty will be at risk" Cathces my eye. Seems this might mean the Saudis, who have been playing both sides of the fence, providing money and support to terrorists, while making lots of noises about being opposed to terrorism. Syria, Iran and Pakistan also fit this to a degree. After a series of attacks on Westerners in Saudi Arabia, amid some threats to the Saudi government, the Suadis have realized they are a target and have tighten the leash on some the support activities. From a strateigic stand point, this appears to be a mistake on the terroirst's part, al though they gain points for being ideologically pure. Pakistan was providing covert support to a number of extermists groups in India. One of the groups went to far, and shot up the Indian parilment. This lead to a seris of events which brought India and Pakistan to the edge of a nuclear war in spring of 2003. After a great deal of external pressure - who knows what India and Pakistan were threaten with and by whom - things have calmed down. ********** I think some of the terrorist actions in Saudi Arabia might have been prematurely triggered by someone - most likely not the US, since we have very little depth with these groups. ********** My guess is that much of the US military and the intelligence community is not very good at provacation, deception, and false flag operations. Being a fairly open commercial society, most Americans don't think deviously - that does mean they aren't evil or greedy, just not strongly devious.... So the military keeps needing to re-teach "Being Sneaky 101" Given that their is a real need to assasinate a Mr. Z, consider 2 sceanarios - 1) Using to radio direction finding to "locate" him to a 500 x 500 foot area, then dropping bombs on everything in that box. 2) Someone pretending to be Mr. Z's kids teacher, who calls to say that the kid has been hurt, gets Mr. X to come the school, where our guys dressed in false uniforms stab Mr. X in the back, and escape in a previously stolen Ambulance... I think many Americans would be more 'comfortable' with option 1, even though the collateral damage to innocent people is high vs. near zero for 2. It's wrong to lie, and gentelmen do not read each others mail... ************ Is this stuff dangerous to the republic ? Yes.