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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (64466)	5/31/2005 5:55:01 AM
From: Elroy Jetson	Respond to of 74559

I can't disagree with anything you've said. It certainly provides a good reason for Chirac to time the Constitution vote for a NO. It is certainly compatible with Chirac's past behavior. I have no idea whether this is what Chirac intended, but the most simply explanation is usually correct. .

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (64466)	5/31/2005 4:49:08 PM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Some very good points. Note that in WWII, the US interment of German and Italian nationals was much more limited than the Japanese internment. With >25% of the US population having some erman ancestery, that was not feasible. I will note that Gergory Blaine, who writes under the psuedonym "Theodore Darylympel" for the UK Spectator, has pointed out an interesting observation. Most of the areas that Arabs live in in France are in newer, separate subrubs or 'urban island' developments, ususally with only one or two narrow roads in or out. These areas could be effectively sealed with one armoured car or small tank. In the event of trouble, the French authorities will have an number options available.... If we look at the issue as Mexican nationals only instead of including all the other people grouped under the 'Hispanic' label, especially people of Cuban descent, the problem becomes much smaller. I expect that there are plans for this situation already in place. So what sort of relation do you see France and the other Meditarrain states building with the Arabs/ Muslims ? It seems that Denmark and Holland want to go another direction....

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (64466)	6/1/2005 3:19:07 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 74559

It's all about trade and getting advantage: <"Yet, when it comes to Europe and the so-called Green Peril, European authorities slavishly, shamelessly, jumped on the US bandwagon on its way to fight "ugly Arabs" I beg to disagree. We have to see the U.S. and the Europeans for what they really are and not for that purport to be. The US wants regime changing in those countries that Europeans are making a bundle selling stuff and getting access to oil. Iraq, Iran are the glaring examples. The US administration doesn’t want to go to say: “We have a trade dispute with the Europeans. We need to get rid of governments that are inimical to globalization and make them grow and their populations improve their standard of living. As a result we can trade with them” The US have to dress this up as a political thing. Not as self-serving policies. Just watch the US doing that right in front of the nose of Putin concerning the former USSR satellite states. Just watch them coopting former USSR states to joi NATO and sell them weapons The Europeans, afraid of losing those markets (did say markets? Oh, I mean countries), are hard at work trying to get those countries, to not clash against the US (like stopping enriching Uranium in Natanz, Iran, so that the regimes are not changed and they keep selling , Peugeots, Airbuses, GSM networks, software… The Europeans know that the US does the same. Just see what they are doing in Saudi with ARAMCO since end of WWII or as they did here in Iran before 1979. Branding terrorists is a another side of the same coin: This a cunny way to keep this people viewed -under the public opinion- as dangerous and you can dump bombs, detain them, invade etc. Keeping Israel afloat, provides a sure way to have dangerous Arabs…