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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (163397)6/1/2005 1:26:20 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
In what way were we interfering in Kurdish affairs beyond making sure that Saddam could not bomb them to oblivion? Kurds were given the opportunity to find their own path and they did. There is no reason to believe the same arrangement could not have been made for other Iraqi provinces.

>> Killing more slowly is hardly a virtue if it is your permanent situation,

Who said anything about permanent? Sooner or later either Saddam would have died, the Iraqis would have changed the regime, or US would have had a capable president.

>> Hitler killed more slowly during the 30s than the 40s;

And have you ever wondered why? Because in the 40s US took the position that even if some German generals overthrew Hitler and changed the regime, nothing short of unconditional surrender would do. Obviously nobody would overthrow his own government, no matter how bad, only to see it under foreign boots. In other words, the 6 million did not have to die if US and UK had taken more reasonable positions and encouraged internal change rather than outright subjugation. Similar thing happened in Iraq.

You should choose a better example, if you can

>> War is always a solution that is worse in the short term.

How short of the term are we talking about, and I'll tell you if I agree.

>> The course of war avoidance at all costs lead to a triumphant Saddam,

Oh please! Whoever said war avoidance at all costs? Try to answer the argument presented and not the one you wish I had made.