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To: Joe NYC who wrote (235256)	6/1/2005 2:41:29 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573018

10 is what percent of the 150-200 that have been released? Yet you said: "The captives at Guantanamo are mostly (or all) Al Quaeda fighters. The evidence of that is that when some of them are released, they rejoin Al Quaeda and commit more terrorist acts." The fact is that you are grossly exaggerating to support your position. You might want to read this article - Message 21374600 re: I admire your continued (yet futile) efforts at weaseling out. Tey asking me a question that makes sense... I'll probably answer. John

To: Joe NYC who wrote (235256)	6/1/2005 8:50:03 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573018

Show me the evidence that everyone released from Guantanamo has "rejoined" al Qaeda and committed "more" terrorist acts. Yes. BTW, I admire your continued (yet futile) efforts at weaseling out. -------------------------------------------------------------- Released Detainees Rejoining The Fight By John Mintz Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, October 22, 2004; Page A01 At least 10 detainees released from the Guantanamo Bay prison after U.S. officials concluded they posed little threat have been recaptured or killed fighting U.S. or coalition forces in Pakistan and Afghanistan, according to Pentagon officials. Hmmmm....ten....is that all you can come up with; how much you want to be that the majority of 750 detainees go home without any charges: Pentagon Clears 38 Guantanamo Detainees By Robert Burns The Associated Press Tuesday 29 March 2005 Washington - Thirty-eight detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have been declared not to be "enemy combatants" and are therefore eligible for release, the Pentagon said Tuesday. That was an increase of five from the last time the Pentagon released results of its reviews, which were concluded in January but took additional time to obtain final approval. truthout.org UK releases all Gitmo returnees Wednesday, May 5, 2004 Posted: 2236 GMT (0636 HKT) LONDON, England -- The four British detainees placed in UK custody after returning from the U.S. Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have now been released, New Scotland Yard says. edition.cnn.com Four British Gitmo detainees sue cnn.com Lawyers cast light inside ‘Gitmo' Access brings abuse allegations By RICK MONTGOMERY Kansas City Star “Among the most dangerous, vicious killers on the face of the earth,” Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld called them. “Hardest of the hard core.” Hundreds of “enemy combatants” captured in and around Afghanistan — including some 550 still held by American forces at the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba — were deemed such a risk to national security, the Bush administration denied them access to lawyers until recently. Last month, Scott M. Sullivan, a New York lawyer who grew up in Leawood, brought cookies to eight of them. “They ask, ‘How is my mother? My brother?' ” said Sullivan, a 1994 graduate of Blue Valley Northwest High School. “They want to see pictures of any new children in the family. “To a person, they tell us, ‘All I want is to go back home and live in peace with my family.' ” Sullivan is among only two or three dozen U.S. lawyers now allowed to enter Guantanamo to meet with shackled detainees, many of whom have spent three years in captivity without being formally charged with a crime. One by one, as their identities become known, the suspected terrorists are hooking up with law firms challenging the detainments in civilian courts, as provided by a U.S. Supreme Court ruling last year. Access to outside counsel — long fought by the Pentagon — is casting new light on the inner shadows of “Gitmo.” Lawyers who have been there accuse the military of engaging in psychological torture, medical neglect and dirty tricks to turn detainees against attorneys. The International Committee of the Red Cross, having inspected the facilities, voices similar accounts of “cruel, inhumane and degrading” treatment. However, a report issued this month of a Defense Department probe found Guantanamo's operations and interrogation techniques to be exemplary, with only seven confirmed cases of “minor abuse” of detainees. “We are holding them to prevent them from continuing to fight against the United States, and for their intelligence value,” Pentagon spokesman Maj. Michael Shavers said last week. “What critics are forgetting is that under (the Geneva Conventions), there's nothing requiring representation” for enemy fighters suspected of breaking laws of war. Four Guantanamo detainees face charges of committing war crimes. They will be tried by military commissions that assign lawyers to the defendants. Entitled to some of the same rights accorded criminal suspects in civilian courts, they could be executed if convicted. As for the rest of the prison population, Shavers said the military has evaluated detainees — and freed nearly 150 of them — since the facility opened in January 2002, after the fall of Afghanistan's Taliban. thestate.com Who has been released? Over the past three years, 234 detainees have been permitted to leave Gitmo, but 67 were released on the condition that they be held by their home governments, including Pakistan, Britain, Morocco and Saudi Arabia. At least 12 of those set free are believed to have resumed terrorist activities, according to the Defense Department. The vast majority of those released were deemed to be no longer a threat or of any intelligence value. Since the U.S. started the review tribunals last fall, about 40 detainees have been or will be freed because they were found not to be enemy combatants after all. timecanada.com