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To: Lane3 who wrote (117608)6/1/2005 7:46:51 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 794048
 
I don't deny that there are absolute values out there. There may be. I have no way to know.

I have (years ago on SI) asserted that there was, but I am not at this time asserting any such thing. I am talking about the holding of certain ideas as absolute values, and the implications thereof. I am not talking about the metaphysical existence of such values. The belief in them could be 100% false and it wouldn't change anything I am saying here, or make it incorrect.

Edit - Defining an absolute value as one that is held to be absolutely true, does not require that any value actually be absolutely true. In fact the definition doesn't even require that anyone hold any idea to be absolutly true, after all we can define a unicorn without them actually existing.

Can you tell me that, if you hold several absolute values, you would not as a father inculcate them? It seems to me that you would. You would insist within your little fiefdom that they be honored as such. Could you not and still think yourself a good father?

A person who holds absolute values is likely to try and spread them (its not an intrinsic or total connection, or an inevitable result, but its very likely). However spreading your values doesn't require authoritarianism or war.

Tim