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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (163487)	6/2/2005 9:21:07 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>> I cited evidence for the majority of suicide bombers being foreigners Hold it right there. When exactly did you show that most of suicide bombers were foreign fighters? By all means bring it forth, may be I missed something. You did not even claim that most of the suicide bombers were foreign fighters. Your claim was that most of those that you could id were foreign fighters. True to the Bush-Cheney-Rove style, you said one thing while implying something else. But even your real claim was too weak of an argument. Your id comes from a second-hand account of AQ websites, which is far from reliable and a military who loves to spin facts and outright lies. So the question remains, at the rate of more than 22 suicide bombers per day, how many ids have been made and by whom? Your own data says at most 250 Iraqi and foreign fighters. So where are the vast majority of them coming from? You'd love for us to extrapolate from the weak and conveniently gathered data you have posted. But that does not stand any logic.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (163487)	6/2/2005 10:43:23 PM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

LIAR! The suicide bombers AND insurgents are 90+% Iraqis you lying dufus. Only 5% have been foreigners. As usual you are a liar and full of sh*t. Suicide Attacks Rising Rapidly Increasingly, the bombers are Iraqis instead of foreign infiltrators. Coalition officials acknowledge that the numbers show an Iraqi-dominated insurgency. Fewer than 5% of those killed or captured were foreigners, one official noted. He also described the influx from abroad as making up a "very, very small part" of the estimated 12,000 to 20,000 insurgents. Maj. Gen. Munem Said Abdulqadir, head of the Iraqi police force explosive ordnance demolition team in Baghdad, faulted the now-disbanded U.S. Coalition Provisional Authority for barring even mid-level figures of Saddam Hussein's regime from the new security order. He said he feared there were thousands of technically savvy and disaffected Iraqis, mostly Sunni Arabs, vulnerable to recruitment as suicide bombers. ktla.trb.com