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To: zonder who wrote (31341)6/3/2005 8:59:40 AM
From: Knighty Tin  Respond to of 116555
 
However, you could quote just about anything Ron Paul says and he has a voting record to back it up. It's hard to believe that his district borders Tom DeLay's. <G>



To: zonder who wrote (31341)6/3/2005 9:03:27 AM
From: mishedlo  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
stupid question: Aren't deficits themselves proof Congress is spending more? (to much?)

Mish



To: zonder who wrote (31341)6/3/2005 9:12:27 AM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
In real terms, Congress is spending less. Under Reagan and George HW Bush, we spent 22% of GDP. Under Clinton and Dubya, we spent 20% of GDP. However, under Bush, Revenue declined to 17% of GDP from a previous rate of 20%.



To: zonder who wrote (31341)6/3/2005 10:26:31 AM
From: PAST  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
Zonder - Not QED.

Your proof for the following quote: >>Friedman's statement I called demonstrably false is: "Deficits are the only thing that keeps this Congress from spending more".<< has the flaw of narrowness of vision. Friedman's use of the word, "more", has no reference to the past. Your logic only considers a comparison to what was spent in the past, but Friedman made no such reference.

While no doubt exists that Congress has spent more than it did in the past, that does not refute the possibility that Congress COULD have spent MORE than it has at this point, but did not for some reason. Possibly, that reason is because of existing deficits? Your logic has not denied that possibility.

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