To: tejek who wrote (235960 ) 6/6/2005 4:25:47 AM From: GUSTAVE JAEGER Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573020 Re: ...the EU is a done deal. I hadn't realize the number of nations was over 20. As for France, they are always in "temporary internal disarray", believing that no one gives them the due they deserve for having invented the croissant and great wine. Well, as I once put it, we'd better talk of UNE, instead of EU:Message 19731984 As for the current crisis over the draft EU constitution, the process of gradual political unification of Europe was dealt a fatal blow in March 2003 when the US launched the Iraq war --and split Europe into pros and cons.... The idea of a truly European (political) Union was killed at that time --it's just that most Europeans didn't realize it.(*) The Constitution flop is somehow the belated, collateral fallout of the Iraq war. Again, let me draw an imaginary parallel with the US. Imagine that, back in December 2002, as the US President calls for sending ever more troops to Saudi Arabia and get ready to invade Iraq, several US Governors (say, from California, Massachusetts and other blue states) openly gainsay the US foreign policy! "Blue" Governors publicly declare their opposition to a war against Iraq and, accordingly, warn that their states will not commit troops to such an operation... At the same time, red states like Texas and the Bible Belt are raring to kick ass in Iraq and so are their governors who pledge their full support to the President. Talk about a "temporary internal disarray" in the US, huh? What would the world think of the US? Europeans would just scoff at the disunity of America... They'll blather about "New America" vs "Old America". Eventually, one of the warmongering states might incur its own "Madrid" and pull out of Iraq --like Spain did in June 2004... What a mess, eh? Gus (*) Message 21383040 Message 21372621