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To: RetiredNow who wrote (236106)6/6/2005 4:33:51 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1571200
 
Re: You must have forgotten that Palestinians were dancing and celebrating in the streets when 9/11 happened.

You are wrong, again. Of course I have not forgotten the vast gulf between the few images CNN and Faux News presented showing a handful of crazed Palestinians celebrating the tragedy of 9/11 and the reality of that day's events and announcements. You utterly fail to recognize the reality that every responsible Muslim leader universally condemned the terrorist acts of 9/11. Why do you do that? Do you prefer to lie? Or are you so naive as to accept the crap fed to you by your TV as the truth? I pity you if you haven't realized by now that the TV is a propaganda tool for the elites who are shaping a message of hate that you seem to be swallowing.

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As far as who was celebrating on 9/11/01, I doubt that there were more than a handful of Palestinians acting badly, because I've seen the foreign press on this matter, and they plus the alternative media have categorically proven that the image you keep in your head is pure propaganda bullshit.

What is much more real is the fact that Israeli Mossad operatives were captured in New Jersey celebrating the same event. These dancing and laughing celebrators were arrested and held in the same Bronx detention center as innumerable Muslims caught up in the government's dragnet.

ww1.sundayherald.com

The difference is that after being held for about 3 months, the Israeli agents were freed, whereupon they immediately returned to Israel.

The details of the arrest:

tinyurl.com

September 11, 2001: Five Israelis Arrested for Puzzling Behavior near WTC

The white van used by five Israeli agents as they were leaving New York on 9/11.
Five Israelis are arrested around 4:30 pm for “puzzling behavior” related to the WTC attacks: filming the burning WTC from the roof of their company's building near Liberty State Park, New Jersey, then shouting in what was interpreted as cries of joy and mockery. A neighbor spotted them and called the police and the FBI. The police tracked them down in a van with the words “Urban Moving Systems” written on the side. [Bergen Record, 9/12/01; Ha'aretz, 9/17/01] One man was found with $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock, another had two passports on him, and a box cutter was found in the van. [ABC News, 6/21/02] Investigators say that “[t]here are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted . . . It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen.” [Bergen Record, 9/12/01] One of these Israelis later says, “our purpose was to document the event.” [ABC News, 6/21/02] The FBI later concludes at least two are Mossad agents and that all were on a Mossad surveillance mission. The FBI interrogates them for weeks. [Forward, 3/15/02] They are held on immigration violation charges, but are released 71 days later. [ABC News, 6/21/02] Their names are later identified as Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Oded Ellner, Omer Marmari, and Yaron Shmuel. [Forward, 3/15/02]

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Re: You should do more reading on both sides to ensure you present an unbiased picture, and then base your opinions on that.

It will be obvious to any observer here that my reading of on the topic is vastly more encyclopedic than is yours. You are a bullshitter. I'm trying to get at the truth.

This is an excellent primer for you to print up, read and share with as many people as you can:

cactus48.com



To: RetiredNow who wrote (236106)6/7/2005 1:40:31 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571200
 
You must have forgotten that Palestinians were dancing and celebrating in the streets when 9/11 happened.

The US is Israel's leading ally in the world. Israel denies Palestinians their right of self determination. What other reaction would you expect?