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To: tejek who wrote (236152)6/6/2005 11:45:26 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573092
 
>Secondly, he thinks the Nixon impeachment intensified the right's anger level, causing it to go up another notch; that they believed what Nixon did was not an impeachable offense and that the liberals pushed it just to get Nixon out of the WH. After that, the GOP was hell bent on seizing power and maintaining as much control as possible.

Henry Hyde confirmed that for us a couple of weeks ago.

-Z



To: tejek who wrote (236152)6/7/2005 12:06:36 AM
From: 10K a day  Respond to of 1573092
 
i would totally agree with that...



To: tejek who wrote (236152)6/7/2005 6:10:21 AM
From: steve harris  Respond to of 1573092
 
You're watching FOXNews?
lol

foxnews.com



To: tejek who wrote (236152)6/7/2005 7:10:53 AM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573092
 
re: At one point, the interviewer asked Clinton why he thought there was so much animosity/tension between the two parties. He had a really interested spin on the whole problem. He said he thought it started back in the 1960s during the Vietnam war. He believes that the Republicans in this country did not want to withdraw from the war [sound familiar]and they felt the liberals forced this country to pull out.

Secondly, he thinks the Nixon impeachment intensified the right's anger level, causing it to go up another notch; that they believed what Nixon did was not an impeachable offense and that the liberals pushed it just to get Nixon out of the WH. After that, the GOP was hell bent on seizing power and maintaining as much control as possible.


I completely agree with the second part... Watergate raised the stakes and the Republicans have been getting revenge ever since.

But I wouldn't agree with the first part. Towards the end of Vietnam, most of the country recognized that we needed to get out. Sure there were some irrational hawks (you can find many clones on this thread) but the thinking people had had enough.

And remember it was a Republican who pulled the plug.

I think it's interesting and irrational the way the hawks always blame the war dissidents for the losses in a war. As if the combined will of the US people somehow translates to the tactical battlefield.

John



To: tejek who wrote (236152)6/7/2005 10:19:08 AM
From: Taro  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573092
 
Here is a different take:
It all started when ML played the flute and he was caught in that process and then lying about it. That's were half of the dems got deeply embarrassed and the other half wasted whatever energy left in the party trying to down play and hush the event.

Taro



To: tejek who wrote (236152)6/7/2005 10:02:16 PM
From: brushwud  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573092
 
At one point, the interviewer asked Clinton why he thought there was so much animosity/tension between the two parties. He had a really interested spin on the whole problem. He said he thought it started back in the 1960s during the Vietnam war. He
believes that the Republicans in this country did not want to withdraw from the war [sound familiar]and they felt the liberals forced this country to pull out.

Secondly, he thinks the Nixon impeachment intensified the right's anger level, causing it to go up another notch; that they believed what Nixon did was not an impeachable offense and that the liberals pushed it just to get Nixon out of the WH. After that, the GOP was hell bent on seizing power and maintaining as much control as possible.


Right, and so there became a vast right-wing conspiracy to seize power and install a series of Republican presidents, each of whom garnered a higher percentage of the vote than Clinton ever did.

In actuality, Clinton was AWOL in 1968 dodging the draft and so probably missed the fact the Nixon was the one claiming to have a secret plan to end the war while the Democrats ran Humphrey the hawk, who fully supported and defended the Kennedy-Johnson war.