To: Elroy who wrote (236170 ) 6/7/2005 10:34:22 AM From: RetiredNow Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1570313 "Illegal"? How can you even reach that conclusion when Israel's borders are not agreed upon by its neighbors, or even by Israel? if neighboring countries don't agree that you are there, what system of laws decides what legal and illegal? If you don't want to call it illegal, then let's call it simply wrong. You know for a fact that the settlements are beyond any internationally recognized borders. The Israelis know it's wrong to have settlements. As long as there are settlements, there will be no peace. It's really pretty simple.I think Israel is about 80% to 85% Jewish The fact that the institutions with power in Israel want to keep the Jewish character of Israel is a problem in that it leads to unequal treatment of Arab Israelis. I don't know how you solve this problem, because in America we integrate everyone regardless of race or religion. If you have a policy of non-integration of non-Jews, it seems to me that you are setting the state up for a hard fall. Maybe the Israelis can eventually win their utopia, but it won't be easy.I would bet they would live in peace with Jewish people under a secular government that treats Jews and non-Jews equally, if all the land that was taken from them in the creation of Israel were returned to them. That has never been offered, however, in the wonderful summits that you described. The Jews purchased the land they live on now. As far as the settlements, those are an encroachment. But asking for Israel to give back all the lands they purchased would leave them with nothing. Whatever happened 50 years ago is ancient history. If peace is to be had then today's realities on the ground need to be taken into account. A right of return is a non-starter as is giving back all Israel to Palestinians.