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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: zonder who wrote (36169)	6/7/2005 9:18:18 AM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

The "insurgents" aren't Iraqis. Most of them are Saudis.

To: zonder who wrote (36169)	6/7/2005 1:10:26 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Respond to of 90947

"A more apt comparison ..." would be the large numbers of German, Japanese, Italian and other European and Asian civilians killed or wounded by allied forces (rather than the French). You are right - the French probably killed few Germans, civilian or not. White flags aren't exactly deadly weapons. But allied forces killed many - an unfortunate collateral effect of warfare, especially in those days of relatively low tech yet massively destructive weaponry.

To: zonder who wrote (36169)	6/7/2005 3:42:16 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

LET'S MOVE THE CLOCK UP A BIT! Them you can cry for someone else. We are well aware of the faith you have in the Muslim media, so clearly they would not lie in the accounts of theirs that appear here. 1954-1962. The Algerian war for independence against France. Just like those insurgents attacking American soldiers, no? Fighting for their homeland against foreign invaders? You should have seen this coming. Or do you REALLY beleive all those colonies in the French Empire just came in voluntarily and waited until France was good and ready to let them go? The french army and torture during the algerian war (1954-1962) ..................................................... Le Monde published the story of Louisette Ighilahriz, captured in September 1957 at the age of 20 and raped and tortured for three months. ...................................................... Pierre Vidal-Naquet published documents and testimonies in a militant journal throughout the war to prove that torture was occurring, and in particular surrounding the issue of the disappearance of Maurice Audin, a young communist student arrested and tortured to death. He later published L'affaire Audin and Raison d'état . Since then, however, the issue remained largely untouched. The archives were closed to the public for thirty years, a period extendable for up to 60 yrs for those which were liable to compromise a person's privacy or state security. This meant that although 1992 was an important year in allowing access to a large part of the archival evidence, it is only in 2022 that the remaining documents will become freely accessible. mfo.ac.uk the genocidal French slaughtered entire villages of Algerians marxists.org The most interesting current case, however, is here in France, where an 83-year old retired general, Paul Aussaresses, has publicly admitted, even boasted, that he supervised torture, summary executions, and assassinations during the bloody 1954-1962 Algerian war of independen bigeye.com Wanna throw more stones? I can find plenty. This hardly scratches the surface.