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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (236228)	6/7/2005 1:38:33 PM
From: RetiredNow	Respond to of 1571040

I agree. Many different and conflicting forces have hijacked the Palestinian cause. Arafat was a master of riding the surf on the waves of those hijackings. The Palestinians have lost their identity. They need to find for themselves a common voice, preferably through an elected official such as Abbas. Then they need to articulate their vision and pursue that vision through negotiation with Israel. When they reach a roadblock they need to press the U.S. and Europe to help them get what they want. This is called diplomacy. Abbas has been trying hard, but alot of work remains to be done. Hamas for one needs to get out of the guerrilla warefare business and into the diplomatic business. They have a historic opportunity to make a transition now and sweep themselves into a legitimate, peaceful force for good of the Palestinians. Let's see if they seize it.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (236228)	6/7/2005 3:43:17 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571040

Mindmeld, They are fractious and they aren't sure what they want more, a state for themselves or all the Jews in Israel dead. As soon as they can answer that question for themselves, then they can begin to become part of the global community. Seems like even the global community can't answer that question. Sympathy for the terrorists and hatred against America is leading many to believe it's all Israel's fault. It seems to me that if a country is going to sit in judgement on a dispute, it should come from a place of fairness............and that should include the US. I certainly don't condone the behavior of the terrorists. However, I do understand the frustration of the Palestinians in this matter. In 1948, the Zionists had been abandoned by the Brits and were up a creek without a paddle. The US stepped in and insured that Israel became a free state. Since then, it has stepped in to help Israel on several occasions during its formative years. Now flash forward over 50 years.........times have changed. Israel is a military superpower in the region. Most of her people are comfortably middle class. No country dares mess with her. The US contributes $3 billion annually to her well being. Meanwhile, the Palestinians are continuing to rot in their refugee camps partly from their own doings but mostly from the doings of others. That's why Palestine invokes a desire for fairness from some of us. The lack of balance in the dispute is what has people upset. Meanwhile, the Palestinians continue to be used as pawns. No wonder they can't decide, because the forces controlling them really aren't interested in a Palestinian state. They are clear they want their own state. There is no ambiguity in that issue. And some also want Israel destroyed. What's not to understand here? This is not the first time a people is of two minds. I suspect that once a Palestinian state is established, the minority who want Israel destroyed will grow smaller over time. ted