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Politics : Bush Administration's Media Manipulation--MediaGate? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (3667)	6/7/2005 10:14:20 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9838

Re: The point is that you pick ANY religion ot ANY race or ANY nationality and you can find scads of bloody incidents in was involved in. Okay, let's cut the crap here. I gave you a list from 2005 of violent incidents involving muslims. You say that "any religion" could result in the type of bloodshed I posted. As we are talking about the present, not 500 years ago, and not 100 years ago, please name me one group which has inflicted as much pain as muslims have in the past few years. Before you can fight your enemy, you must first recognize him. You seem either unwilling or incapable of doing so.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (3667)	6/8/2005 11:38:06 AM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 9838

Two of Zarqawi''s aides arrested MIL-IRAQ-ARREST Two of Zarqawi's aides arrested ARBIL, June 8 (KUNA) -- Two aides of terrorist leader Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi have been arrested, said director of the Kurdish National Alliance operations' center in Mosul Asu Mamand. In statements to the press on Wednesday, the Kurdish official named the two aides as Ibrahim Mohammed Khattab and Ali Abdullah, known as Ali Al-Zuhairi, adding that they were also aides to Zarqawi's right-hand man Mullah Mehdi who was arrested last week. He went on to say that a large amount of weapons, equipment and documents were seized at their hideout, as well as a quantity of chemicals used in the manufacture of banned weapons. No information were disclosed on when, where or how the two aides were arrested. Meanwhile, a statement issued by the US forces said that joint Iraqi-US operations are ongoing in the southwestern part of the province of Niyouni, adding that these come as part of some 30 military joint and independent operations in different parts of Iraq. (end) sbr. kuna.net.kw

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (3667)	6/8/2005 3:28:33 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9838

The Real Gitmo War On Terror: In their rush to bash the Bush administration, apologize for Islam and maintain their claim to the mantle of tolerance, the media elite have missed the real story of Guantanamo Bay. To wit: Far from disrespecting the faith of Muslim detainees at Gitmo, the U.S. catered to their religious needs. Yes, the Pentagon now confirms a few cases in which the Quran was accidentally mishandled by guards at the prison for terror suspects. But the bizarre fact that al-Qaida and Taliban enemy combatants were even supplied Qurans is lost on the liberal media. No German prisoners during WWII were provided copies of "Mein Kampf," for example. Yet the military passed out 1,300 paperback copies of the Muslim holy book in 13 languages to Gitmo detainees. It also gave them prayer beads to finger. But don't stop there. Gitmo command even served prisoners Muslim-approved meals free of pork. And none of this was done after the International Red Cross complained of mistreatment. It was original policy. In March 2002, the Pentagon brought in a Muslim chaplain by the name of Abuhena Saifulislam to minister to Gitmo prisoners around the clock. He called them to prayer, privately ministered to them in Arabic and Urdu and trained Gitmo guards to respect Muslim customs. In a touching gesture, Saifulislam even recommended that prisoners be treated to a traditional meal of dates and lamb during one major Muslim holiday. They got their feast. In short, we bent over backward to honor their religious customs. Gulag? More like Dar al-Gitmo. Still, now that the Pentagon has confirmed some cases of Quran mishandling (though not the toilet-flushing incident Newsweek first reported), suspicions are growing throughout the Muslim world that it was part of official U.S. interrogation policy designed to rattle Muslim detainees. That couldn't be further from the truth. If a few rogue guards mishandled the Quran, they went against official policy, which called for using prisoners' sacred book and other religious "comfort items" as incentives for cooperation. Gitmo brass even let many of them keep their bushy beards, which Islamists wear as a sign of devotion to their faith — even though forced grooming is standard operating procedure in prisons to control for lice and weapons. Meanwhile, the Pentagon has ordered U.S. troops not to do anything to express or display their religion in the presence of Muslims, lest we offend them. So the bad guys behind barbed wire can be religious — but not our soldiers guarding them. And here's the most outrageous part: Though desecrating holy books isn't official policy in the U.S., it is in many of the Muslim countries that continue to condemn the U.S. for minor Gitmo incidents by rogue MPs. In Saudi Arabia, for one, religious police shred Bibles brought into that country by Christians. For that matter, they're known to even confiscate books brought in by Muslim pilgrims traveling to Mecca if they espouse doctrines counter to Wahhabism, the kingdom's official religion. Perhaps these countries should first remove the log from their own eyes before rioting over the speck in ours. Contrary to reports, our PC-obsessed military went overboard to respect the faith of al-Qaida and Taliban terrorists at Gitmo — ironically nourishing the very source of the murderous hatred that got them locked up there in the first place. investors.com

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (3667)	6/8/2005 3:30:26 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 9838

Intolerance in the Bible Belt How many parents have pleaded with their child to read? Anything? In Knoxville, Tenn., a 10-year-old chose to spend his recess time reading the Bible with fellow classmates. In the opinion of most sensible observers, the studious boy represents a refreshing departure from usual grade-school behavior. Instead of bullying, fighting or other typical recess pastimes, Luke Whitson was reading. But his choice of literature has stirred the constitutional and cultural sensitivities of a public school principal. According to a lawsuit filed by the Alliance Defense Fund, Karns Elementary School Principal Cathy Summa "abruptly interrupted certain fourth-grade students while they were in the midst of a Bible discussion during recess, demanded that they stop their activity at once, put their Bibles away and, from that point forward, cease from bringing their Bibles to school." So, the Pentagon buys Korans and prayer carpets for Islamist terrorists, but a fourth-grader isn't allowed to read the Bible during recess? What wonderful ways our society condones stupendous hypocrisy. The Knoxville school system argues that recess is not "free time," during which, apparently, students are considered out of the classroom environment and allowed to engage in harmless pursuits, like playing, gossiping and -- yes -- reading. An ADF attorney representing Luke and his parents said, "Our position is the Constitution says yes to Bible reading and discussion outside class time. The principal and other school officials have contended that recess is not free time. We disagree." One of course must wonder when a student can enjoy "free time," if not during recess. On a national level, the principal's zealotry is a sad, but inevitable, consequence of decades of butchering the constitutional clause -- which isn't in fact in the Constitution -- that separates church from state. It's a fine mess that liberal activists have made for us: Defend the right to practice all religions -- except Christianity. They fight to fund government agencies that support artists who dip the cross in urine or splatter Mary with cow feces, but call upon the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions whenever a Koran is accidentally "kicked." It's unfortunate that young Luke has received such an early lesson in liberal intolerance. One needn't be a Christian to appreciate that Luke and his friends were -- during their "free time" -- reading about themes well ahead of the average course work of a fourth-grader. It far surpasses the intellectual demands of, say, Harry Potter or Tom Sawyer. So, we say to Luke, read on -- grown-ups don't always know as much as they think they do.