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To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/7/2005 10:54:41 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
....Kerry's refusal to waive privacy restrictions dates back to at least May 2003, when the Globe asked in writing for Kerry to sign the Form 180. As questions were raised about various actions in Vietnam, the Kerry campaign gradually released documents last year, but had not authorized the release of the entire file until now.

In April 2004, Kerry said he had already released his military records. ''I've shown them, they're available for you to come and look at," Kerry said in a television interview. But when a reporter showed up at campaign headquarters, he was told that no new records would be released. That prompted a flood of Republican criticism, and the campaign responded by gradually releasing more military records on its website. Kerry then released his ''fitness reports" -- evaluations by commanding officers -- on April 21, 2004.

Two days later, the campaign allowed some reporters to view Kerry's medical record but did not allow copies to be made and did not post that information online.

The file does not provide new documents about various combat actions. It contains mostly a repetition of Kerry's citations for the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts. For example, it does not include the combat ''after action reports" that detail what happened in some of the firefights in which Kerry participated. Those reports are available for public inspection at the Navy historical center in Washington and have already been widely disseminated.

John O'Neill, the leader of the Swift Boat veterans group and coauthor of the book ''Unfit for Command," said yesterday that he would be disappointed if Kerry's files do not contain new information. ''I would still have the same beliefs expressed in my book," he said.

O'Neill, who said he has already authorized the release of his records, has questioned a number of Kerry's combat actions involving the first Purple Heart, the Silver Star, and the Bronze Star.

For example, Kerry received his first Purple Heart for action on Dec. 2, 1968. Kerry told historian Douglas Brinkley that ''I never saw where the piece of shrapnel had come from." Kerry's critics have questioned whether the wound came from enemy fire, and his former commanding officer said the wound resembled a ''scratch." The file includes a previously reported reference to Kerry being treated for the wound and that he was awarded the Purple Heart, but it does not address the details of the combat that night. No after-action report for the incident has been found.....

boston.com



To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/8/2005 5:10:43 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Kranish and the Boston Globe should post Kerry's records for public review

By Beldar on SwiftVets

Today's Boston Globe contains two articles by staff reporter Michael Kranish that discuss Navy records pertaining to Senator (and failed presidential candidate) John F. Kerry. The articles say that the Globe obtained the records pursuant to a Standard Form 180, signed by Sen. Kerry, which named the Globe as the party to whom the records were to be directly released. In one article, Mr. Kranish asserts:

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The lack of any substantive new material about Kerry's military career in the documents raises the question of why Kerry refused for so long to waive privacy restrictions. An earlier release of the full record might have helped his campaign because it contains a number of reports lauding his service. Indeed, one of the first actions of the group that came to be known as Swift Boat Veterans for Truth was to call on Kerry to sign a privacy waiver and release all of his military and medical records.
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The second article focuses on Kerry's Yale undergraduate grades and concludes that Kerry was a "lackluster student" whose grade average was "virtually identical" to Dubya's. (Although in fact Kerry's grades appear to be slightly worse, both can fairly be characterized as "lackluster.")

Although both articles make interesting reading, I can't help feeling considerable skepticism about their conclusions.

Mr. Kranish and the Globe have indeed sometimes been critical of Sen. Kerry. But at other times — in particular with their trashy and unethical treatment of Captain George Elliott — they've skewed facts in ways that have been extremely beneficial to Sen. Kerry. And sometimes they've simply made incredible and inexcusable factual bloopers that likewise worked to Sen. Kerry's benefit — as, for example, in their biographical book "John F. Kerry: The Complete Biography by the Boston Globe Reporters Who Know Him Best," in which they described Sen. Kerry as "a man who was severely wounded in combat [and] who watched men under his command die." As I wrote last summer, the first statement is absolutely false. Kerry's wounds were trivial, but this egregious factual mistake about them wasn't. The second statement is unsupported and almost certainly an exaggeration.

Moreover, despite Mr. Kranish's subjective conclusion that the records he's reviewed contain no "substantive new material," his articles utterly fail to address, either in detail or in summary form, some of the most controversial questions about Sen. Kerry's war service — including in particular the questions regarding Sen. Kerry's discharge.

The Boston Globe should immediately post all the records, and the signed Standard Form 180, as .pdf scans on their website. Perhaps they already plan to do so, and simply haven't gotten the scans made yet. But even were there no past examples to create doubts about the Globe's and Mr. Kranish's objectivity and accuracy, those members of the public who are inclined to study the actual source documents — rather than accepting as gospel Mr. Kranish's pre-digested conclusions — should have the chance to do so.

If the Globe and Mr. Kranish feel themselves to be precluded from posting the source documents because of some lack of further authorization from Sen. Kerry or other privacy concerns, they should disclose the facts about that.

The Rathergate memos were only debunked when the public was able to examine them. Perhaps Mr. Kranish's and the Globe's analysis of the new records has been fair, balanced, accurate, and complete. But there's no excuse for preventing the public from seeing the source documents.

(Mr. Kranish's email address is kranish@globe.com, and the Globe's online feedback form can be accessed through this link. And there are many, many links to blogospheric reactions similar to mine at Michelle Malkin's, Captain Ed's, and Tom Maguire's blogs.)

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Update (Tue Jun 07 @ 7:30pm): Hugh Hewitt and N.Z. Bear also had reactions very similar to mine.
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To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/8/2005 10:26:15 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
On the mixed-up files of John Kerry

Power Line

Reader John Boyle writes:

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I have been yelling since last year that the Navy does not have Kerry's records, nor does DoD.

The Navy has always been Kerry's hide-out. The Navy is covered by the Privacy Laws. You're a lawyer, right? The SF 180 is generically addressed to the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis. These records are 30 to 40 years old. They are history! They do not stay at Navy Personnel Command forever.

It seems to me that all of Kerry's tortured rhetoric on this subject attests to the fact that he was having his records vetted, in spite of the public claim to openness. How to accomplish this? Tell the NPRC, on the SF 180, that the designated recipient of the records is to be a federal Agency (subject to the Privacy Laws) - the Navy!

Then, Kerry or his people get to vet the records at the Navy's offices, allow release of what they want by another required waiver separate from the SF 180, withhold what they don't want out there, and the Navy cannot comment on the process, their holdings - or their withholdings!

The trick is in whom he designated to receive the outflow from NPRC. Read the opening of Kranish's article again: "The records, which the Navy Personnel Command provided to the Globe..."

This is not rocket science, yet no one seems to understand what was done here.

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Boyle followed up with the following message:

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I want to give you another shot on this, just to be sure you understand. It is crystal clear obvious to me, yet very few people seem to get it...is it how I 'splain it?

The SF 180 is actually a request for "Report of Separation" and all such documents are in the sole custody of the National Personnel Records Center, in St. Louis - not the branch in which the veteran served (in this case the Navy).

And the character of Kerry's "separation" (discharge) from the Navy is obviously the document(s) that are hot.

The SF 180 directs the National Personnel Records Center to release records, at the request of the documented veteran, and send them to whomever he designates (usually himself) - period. What is the Navy doing in the middle of this? The Navy must have been the designated recipient, on this specific SF 180 (not the Boston Globe, as Kranish explicitly admits). As a Federal entity, the Navy is then subject to Privacy Laws and any release by them had to be additionally waived by Kerry - or not. He could then easily not waive specific documents for release that he found damaging. What the Boston Globe got was the remainder of whatever the Navy received from NPRC, less what Kerry wished to withhold.

It may be that the Globe is unaware of this game; although I wrote about this at length last week to their reporter Joan Vennochi, who had written that Kerry's 180 was in the pipeline, in order to alert the Globe to what was afoot.

A real shell game.

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We have it on good authority that ace reporter Thomas Lipscomb is working the story of the Globe and Kerry's records as well. Until Lipscomb's stories surface, we'll try mull over Boyle's explanations.

UPDATE: Reader John Gershwin has directed us to the succinct explanation posted here, and reader Randy Moss (if that's his real name, I'm pretty sure he's not the former Vikings wide receiver) refers us to the Spectator's "Mission accomplished."

UPDATE 2: Boyle comments:

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The Spectator article somewhat misses the point also. I'm still puzzled why this is so hard to see. Maybe, like most people with some esoteric expertise, I can't see why others can't see it. Spectator says: "The Navy, which created the documents to begin with, is legally obligated to protect the privacy of the veteran. If, as many conspiracy theorists have posited, negative material was expunged from Kerry's file, the Navy could most likely only include the final version of a document."

The first sentence is my basic point. But, as to the rest of this, I'm pretty sure the Navy can only release those documents the veteran specifically permits it to release. How they were originally produced or revised, or by whom, is irrelevant. And, although this is a Privacy Law question I am not as qualified to address as I am the documents research question, I would bet on it. In other words, even if the Navy had both a bad discharge and a revised good discharge in its files, it could only release the one which the veteran granted waiver for. There is the continuing misapprehension here that the Navy got some sort of blanket release from Kerry, that it had in its custody some sort of personnel file on Kerry apart from what it could obtain from the NPRC, or that he SF 180 was somehow addressed to the Navy. I don't think any of that is the case. That's not how this works.
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He adds:

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BTW - I am no conspiracy theorist. I'm just trying to explain how the documents systems work - and how those who know how they work could manipulate them.
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UPDATE 3: Reader Chris Funk provides a different take:

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I worked for a couple of years at NPC in the same "PERS" command as the Retired Records group. Although I did not deal with any of these records myself, it was my understanding that all requests for retired records were "processed" through the applicable branch.

I visited Naval Personnel Command's website to try and refresh my recollection, but only found this: "The Retired Records Section, PERS-312D2, is physically located at the National Personnel Records Center (NPRC), St. Louis, Missouri. This office verifies entitlement to and issues awards for Navy, Marine Corps and Coast Guard veterans, and provides liaison between the Navy (NPC/BUPERS/NRPC), and NPRC for a variety of information from retired records. The Retired Records Section responds to award requests from Navy, Marine Corps and Coast Guard veterans or, if deceased, their Next of Kin. Requests should be concise and to the point. The use of Standard Form 180 (Requests pertaining to Military Records) is recommended."

I am afraid this doesn't completely clear the air, but I believe the NRPC "holds" the records, but the associated branch of service "owns" the records. Hence, it is technically the NPC that will release them
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powerlineblog.com

spectator.org



To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/9/2005 8:08:06 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
PRO, AND CON, ON FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF KERRY'S WAR MONTHS

jim geraghty reporting
TKS

I figured my call for the world to “move on” from John Kerry would cause a bit of a stir. There are some e-mails of agreement, some e-mails of angry disagreement, and some compelling arguments against my position.

TKS reader Jay:

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It is with deep regret that I read your KerrySpot of 6/8..."To borrow a phrase, it is time to Move On."

There are 250+ Swift Vets and POWs who would like to do nothing better. Unfortunately for them, their collective names are now being used by Kerry and the MSM as a euphemism for "smear".

Move on from THAT? I think not Jim, and it is unconscionable to me that those who so readily partook in the great rhetorical war that was Campaign '04 might so easily leave the heroes of that battle to fend for themselves in the war of words.
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TKS reader Paul:

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Democrats almost universally believe the Swift Boat charges were nothing but a pack of lies. In fact, I would almost call it the main permanent legacy of the last election for that side.

I maintain that belief is very damaging to politics, because it feeds Left certainty that Republicans control everything and will stoop to ever new lows in their lust for power.

So if Kerry is allowed to get away with doing something half-assed that he can claim disproves the Swift charges, and the press plays along, that's cementing in place a cynicism-inducing reality in our politics.
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Well, let’s be aware of what we can and cannot do. Even if the Navy or the National Personnel Record Center were to release an encyclopedia of documents verifying every word and punctuation mark of “Unfit for Command,” John Kerry will still use the term “Swift Boat Vets” as a euphemism for smear.

John Kerry’s war record has been the centerpiece of his campaigns in 1982, 1984, and 2004, and came up in the final days of his 1996 race. It is a key part of the identify of the man who became one of the biggest names in the Democratic Party, and won the party’s nomination in 2004. If his much-touted record is not what he claimed it to be, it would reveal that many, many individuals over the years were duped by Kerry’s claims. Again, if leading Democrats were to acknowledge that the Swifties had a point, it would be like conceding that Clinton was impeached for suborning perjury, not “lying about sex.” We’re talking about arguments and perceptions that are central to the identity of the modern Democratic Party.

And were the mainstream media to be confronted with such stark evidence that Kerry’s war record wasn’t as sterling as he made it sound, credit to the Swifties would only be marginal. A lot of people are deeply invested in the idea of Kerry as a war hero, and in a form of cognitive dissonance, cannot acknowledge that all 200+ Swift Boat Vets might not be lying.

If your aim is to get the mainstream media to admit that the Swifties were right about some points and raised a valid counter-narrative to Kerry’s war years – er, months – then you’re going to be waiting a long time. I mean, Dan Rather is still saying the CBS memos “could be” real. These guys don’t concede points when we’ve got all the evidence on our side; why would they concede when the issue is differing memories?

TKS reader Jim raises a good point, however, that for all of the hubbub and rancor over this topic, there are certain disputed points it would be nice to resolve.


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I still want answers to the outstanding questions. You know, the ones about the discharge in the early ‘70’s vs. the late ‘70’s. The ones about the actual orders regarding Cambodia. The ones about who wrote the after action reports for the Purple Hearts. Those haven’t been answered and I suspect, never will, or at least won’t until we (or our descendants who by that time *really* won’t care) can get our hands on the pertinent documents.
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The lucky hat. The “running guns” to the Khmer Rouge. Yeah, I’d like to know the whole story on those points. But life is short, and there are more pressing priorities.

Numerous readers point to postings on PowerLine discussing whether we have seen all of Kerry’s records in their entirety. From TKS reader Jack:

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If we move on, Kerry will have succeeded in his cover-up.

According to the Boston Globe, Kerry sent his SF180 to the Navy, and that is who released the records. The problem is, his complete record is not maintained by the Navy, but by the National Personnel Record Center. In order to obtain a complete record, the request should have gone to the NPRC.

He could have settled this matter once and for all by authorizing the release of his unexpurgerated record by the NPRC. Instead, he again weaseled around an honest response to requests for the whole truth about his military service.
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It will be interesting to see where this goes.

For those who wish to devote more time, energy and effort into getting to the bottom of what Kerry did and didn’t do in 1971, be my guest. Perhaps someday someone at the National Personnel Record Center will uncover a dusty pile of files, recognize the name, and turn them over to the National Archives.

But John Kerry is spent as a political force, and his capacity to influence national policy is the same as 99 other senators. A majority of Americans said, “no thanks” to his presidency; his party sees him as the scapegoat for their poor performance in 2004.

Besides, the MSM can insist that the Swifties are “discredited.” The authors of “Unfit for Command” claim they sold 3 million copies. Swift Boat Vets for Truth ended up with tens of thousands of donors. Discredited in their circles, perhaps.

Pursue it further if you wish, but I believe that the vast majority of Americans have heard all they want to hear on this topic.

nationalreview.com



To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/9/2005 6:02:06 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Did Kerry really release Navy records?

BY THOMAS H. LIPSCOMB
Chicago Sun Times
June 9, 2005

A front page story in the Boston Globe claimed that: "Senator John F. Kerry, ending at least two years of refusal, has waived privacy restrictions and authorized the release of his full military and medical records." In another Globe story Kerry had promised "The truth in its entirety will come out."

But did it?

Kerry's election hopes faltered last summer and fall as accusations of fraudulent and incomplete military records were aired. The fact that Kerry repeatedly refused to sign a single-page military form called the Standard Form 180, that would have released all his military records to the public, was taken as proof he had something to hide.

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth head John O'Neill, who raised many of the charges against Kerry during the campaign, was challenged by Kerry on "Meet the Press" in January. Kerry promised he would sign his Standard Form 180, but he wanted former Swift Boat officer O'Neill to sign as well.


All depends on how it's filled out


O'Neill did sign it and provided copies to the Chicago Sun-Times. According to O'Neill, "The Standard Form 180 could release 'the full military and medical records.' Or it could release just a few. It all depends on how it is filled out and where it was sent."

"There is nothing magic about signing a SF 180," said former Naval Judge Advocate General Mark Sullivan. "It is sort of like your checkbook. You can fill out a check for one dollar or a million. It is the same check form."

"And the Globe story says Kerry sent it to the Navy Personnel Command, which is only a limited storage location. So it is not surprising that the Globe then notes that what they received was largely 'duplication' of records previously released. The Navy Personnel Command primarily stores a subset of service records rather than a person's full military records. There is no doubt there are a lot of after-action records missing from what Kerry has released," said Sullivan.

Kerry's not talking

Washington Post reporter Michael Dobbs has already found a discrepancy confirmed by the Department of the Navy of "at least a hundred pages" missing from those already disclosed by Kerry.

"If you take a look at my SF 180," O'Neill said, "you will see I have authorized the total release of all my records to anyone requesting to see them. But without seeing how Kerry's SF 180 was filled out, everyone is only guessing about what was released."

So how an SF 180 is filled out is as important as signing it. But no one in the press has yet claimed to have seen a copy of Kerry's SF-180. When asked if she had a copy of Kerry's SF 180, the Globe's Managing Editor Mary Jane Wilkinson said, "I haven't seen it, and I don't know if anyone here has."

Kerry's Senate offices could not provide a copy of the Kerry SF 180 and would not answer inquiries. Is it possible that Kerry filled it out wrong or sent it to the wrong place?

O'Neill made Kerry an offer. "I'll be happy to bring one to Kerry's office and help him fill it out. And then we can take mine and his and deliver them to the right place together to make sure, as Kerry puts it, 'the truth in its entirety will come out.' "

Now that the Boston Globe has in its possession what it claims are Kerry's "full military and medical records," is the Globe ready to make these records available to the public? Wilkinson replied, "It is my understanding that Kerry will release these papers to anyone else now that he has signed the Form 180. The Boston Globe is not going to make available the papers we have received."

Thomas H. Lipscomb is a senior fellow at the Annenberg Center for the Digital Future at USC.

suntimes.com



To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/11/2005 7:42:12 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
JOHN KERRY, "THE RAW DEAL" III

THE POMPOUS SENATOR'S THE REAL DUNCE

By: Doug Schmitz (hat tip to Bill)

"With the exception of seeing Sen. John Kerry’s middling grades at Yale, what was achieved by his signing of the SF-180 document? If it was about releasing his military record, that wasn’t achieved. If it was about clarifying his reserve activities upon his return from his short stint in Vietnam, that wasn’t achieved. If it was to perhaps further obscure the truth about his service and post-Vietnam activities, mission accomplished."

— The American Spectator, June 8, 2005


Now that we finally know why John Kerry refused to sign Form 180 to release his military records, like Kerry, the elite media are still completely incapable of telling the truth about the pompous Massachusetts senator.

The fact that Kerry was on the verge of expulsion from Yale and couldn’t jeopardize what little chance he had of capturing the White House had everything to do with why he never told the truth about his records, which is exactly how he ran his campaign: Hiding behind a less-than-honorable war record and a shoddy college career to conceal who he really was from public view, while being aided and abetted by the leftist media.

After all, if Dan Rather couldn’t help him win the Oval Office through manufactured memos slipped to ‘60 Minutes II’ by a Kerry operative, or if Kerry couldn’t gain the upper-hand through massive Democrat voter fraud in several blue states last fall, what made Kerry think he could hide his educational deficit with his pseudo-intellectuality?

"President Bush, who is routinely derided as a "moron" by embittered Democrats, earned slightly better grades at Yale University than Sen. John Kerry, the supposed Massachusetts intellectual," Newsmax.com reported (June 7, 2005). "According to college transcripts from the top Ivy League school obtained by the Boston Globe, Kerry was well on his way to flunking out during his freshmen year, receiving no fewer than four D’s."

Yet, without knowing these facts beforehand, former New York Times Executive Editor Howell Raines raved in an Aug. 27, 2004 op-ed that ran in the Washington Post, as well as the American-hating The Guardian, about Kerry’s intellect, gushing:

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"Does anyone in America doubt that Kerry has a higher IQ than Bush?" fawned Raines, who was fired in 2003 for knowingly coddling serial plagiarist Jayson Blair. "I’m sure the candidates’ SATs and college transcripts would put Kerry far ahead."
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But rather than challenging Kerry by asking him why he lied to the American public about his intellect and the huge gaps in his Vietnam accounts, the pro-Kerry media, part and parcel, pumped up his ego, dressed up his military record, hid his treason in post-Vietnam and went after Bush with dirty campaign tomfoolery Kerry accused the administration of employing.

Moreover, after all the hand-wringing of the elite media and their fellow Democrats over demanding to know the truth behind what proved to be phony National Guard memos, their devious tactics really expose how they truly operate. By favoring Kerry, they covered for Kerry, and unfairly attacked Bush’s far more superior National Guard record.

While President Bush released his entire military records that had shown that he completed six years of distinctive service, the pro-Kerry media operatives ignored them anyway and instead launched unsubstantiated attacks on Bush’s character. In fact, the Associated Press last year even sued to obtain even more evidence of Bush’s National Guard record, despite having had access to his public files for nearly a year.

Conversely, the same elite media who smeared Bush and discredited the Swift Boat Vets, which the Boston Globe on June 7 referred as "the Swift Boats outfit," never once requested Kerry’s military records, much less sued to obtain access to them. They never once questioned the contents of his records but instead chose to believe him because they wanted him to win. Even before the 2004 Democratic National Convention, media leftists painted Kerry as a big war hero who was "reporting for duty," when in fact he was nothing more than a political opportunist who told his own swift boat crew members of his presidential aspirations before going to meet with our enemies in North Vietnam.

Yet that never seemed to have raised any eyebrows in the pro-Kerry press, which wanted desperately to bury Bush, while they propped up Kerry’s less-than-three very questionable months in Vietnam.

Despite the facts revealing a pompous U.S. senator who barely made it through Yale, the elite media are now predictably slanting those facts, and turning Kerry’s deceit into an apples-to-oranges comparison between Bush and Kerry – with Kerry coming out on top.

Recall that it was members of the elite media, as well as their fellow Democrats, who practically lined up to call Bush "stupid," "ignorant," and "incompetent." They tried to portray Bush as "dumb," when all the while Kerry was the real dunce.

But you’d never know that from the scant coverage. After Google-searching "Bush" +Yale AND Kerry" of over 430,000 articles , none of the elite media had any current stories on Kerry’s lower grades, other than the same boilerplate AP story that ended up favoring Kerry.

Surprisingly, the Globe was more honest than the rest of the pro-Kerry media.

According to the Globe (June 7, 2005), which has played favorites with their hometown boy, Kerry carried a cumulative average of 76, with four Ds in his freshman year.

Last year during his presidential campaign, Kerry and his media operatives went out of their way to hype his intellect, with Kerry being quoted nearly daily insulting Bush’s.

It was Kerry who launched insult after insult at Bush and proclaimed last November: "I can’t believe I’m losing to this idiot."

Yet, Kerry’s media allies pressed on to defend him, despite the revelations about his treasonous war record, flip-flops about Iraq and the economy, and, of course, his less-than-perfect Yale transcripts.

While Bush and Kerry had nearly identical grades, Kerry’s media allies last year played up Kerry’s intellect as superior, in spite of the evidence now to the contrary.

Not only did Bush get better grades than Kerry, he received only one D, as opposed to Kerry’s four Ds; Bush had a cumulative 77, Kerry had a 76. Bush also went on to receive an MBA from Harvard Business School.

What’s more, unlike the arrogant Massachusetts senator, Bush openly displayed his Yale transcript on his Web site
(http://2004.georgewbush.org/bios/yale-transcript.asp).

Not only did Kerry do poorer than Bush, he waited over six months from the time he told Tim Russert that he would release his records, which Kerry also sent to the wrong naval division, which sent back redacted files.

When Kerry finally did release his partial records, he conveniently excused his poor school record on "extracurricular activities," asininely claiming that the four Ds he received stood for "distinction," according to the Globe’s Michael Kranish.

When CNN led the charge against Bush with "It’s the economy, stupid!" and the Democrats criticized his "fuzzy math," it’s been Kerry who’s had the math problems.

During a speech in Huntington, West Virginia on March 16, 2004, Kerry arrogantly proclaimed his ignorance when he said: "I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it."

Yet, Kerry’s media allies never savaged him – not once, despite the pompous senator daily displaying his inferior intellect every time he opens his mouth.

But hidden deep inside Kerry’s Navy records is what didn’t surface last year in the elite media. Rather than admit that he wasn’t the super intellectual he and his media friends made him out to be, Kerry still lied about his war record as well as his poor grades.

Consider the following comments, which James Tartano of Opinionjournal.com (June 8, 2005) cited from blogger Matt Margolis of BlogsforBush.com:

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"We called for Kerry to execute a form which would permit anyone to examine his full and unexpulgated [sic] military records at the Navy Department and the National Personnel Records Center. Instead he executed a form permitting his hometown paper to obtain the records currently at the Navy Department. The Navy Department previously indicated its records did not include various materials. This is hardly what we called for.

"If he did execute a complete release of all records we could then answer questions such as:

(1) Did he ever receive orders to Cambodia or file any report of such a mission (whether at Christmas or otherwise);

(2) What was his discharge status between 1970 and 1978 (when he received a discharge) and was it affected by his meetings in 1970 and 1971 with the North Vietnamese?

"(3) Why did he receive much later citations for medals purportedly signed by Secretary Lehman who said he did not know of them;

(4) Are there Hostile Fire and Personnel Injured by Hostile Fire Reports for Kerry’s Dec. 1968 Purple Heart (when the officer in charge of the boat Admiral Schacte, the treating Surgeon Louis Letson, and Kerry’s Division Commander deny there was hostile fire causing a scratch) awarded three months later under unknown circumstances."
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Despite all the hype surrounding Kerry’s purportedly superior intellect, Kerry’s grades would not have made much difference, said Rush Limbaugh (June 7, 2005), especially since his media allies savaged Bush by questioning his intellect, which we have now discovered is superior to Kerry’s.

But here are some more little tidbits that weren’t widely reported: Kerry stupidly took soft money from groups that support, sponsor and defend terrorist networks, such as al-Qaeda and the faint remnants of the Taliban.

There was Kerry again, sheepishly, treasonously ingratiating himself his America’s enemies. Yet, according to those in the elite media, Kerry’s supposedly the smarter one.

Washington Times reporter Rowan Scarborough (June 2, 2005) reported that Amnesty International, who recently referred to our U.S. troops’ allegedly poor treatment of detainees at Gitmo as a "Soviet gulag," contributed $2,000 to Kerry’s campaign last year.

While Amnesty International was lining Kerry’s pockets, Scarborough wrote that it had "hit the White House for refusing to treat suspected al Qaeda and Taliban terrorists as prisoners of war subject to the Geneva Conventions; for abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq; and for a list of largely unsubstantiated complaints from detainees at Guantanamo."

It comes as no surprise that Kerry would take soft money from an outfit that sympathizes with terrorists – after all, Kerry has done that with North Vietnam (where Kerry held two secret, closed-door meetings in Paris with Communist leader Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Cong to ensure America’s defeat in the Vietnam War); and Nicaragua (where he and Tom Harkin held secret meetings with Marxist thug Daniel Ortega).

What’s more, according to the New York Sun (May 5, 2005), the U.N. is investigating whether one of its senior officials, Justin Leites, violated U.N. rules and the organization’s spirit of international neutrality when he took a paid leave last year to work as a Kerry campaign official from his home state of Maine.

But don’t expect Kerry’s media allies to ever question his now-inferior intellect, much less expose his treason any time soon.


etherzone.com



To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/12/2005 4:11:16 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
"The press would have gone into high dudgeon if Bush had
given documents to the Washington Times and then told
everyone else to go take a hike."

180

RealClearPolitics.com, on John Kerry’s claim to have signed
form SF-180 and released his military records:

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Kerry released his records exclusively to The Boston Globe. This is an odd decision for someone seeking to end speculation regarding the whole affair, and it’s also a perfect example of why the issue of Kerry’s military record continues to plague him.

Without maligning Michael Kranish’s motives or his ability as a reporter, it’s fair to point out that privately funneling documents through a single source from your hometown paper and then declaring the story “dead” and “over” is hardly the epitome of full public disclosure. John Kerry would never accept this type of standard from his political opponents or this administration. Why he thinks the public should accept it now from him is beyond me.

It’s also an issue of fairness and bias in the press.

When rumors and questions about George Bush’s Texas Air National Guard service were recycled in early 2004, the press reacted like a pack of rabid animals
, rushing to file FOIA requests and beating Scott McClellan bloody day after day with demands to see all relevant documents (Meanwhile, John Kerry’s campaign took advantage of the media frenzy to send Terry McAuliffe and his minions out to denounce President Bush in public as having been AWOL). The press would have gone into high dudgeon if Bush had given documents to the Washington Times and then told everyone else to go take a hike.

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(via Kausfiles, natch)

-- PoliPundit

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To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/12/2005 5:06:22 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Lipscomb: Boston Globe Stonewalling On SF-180

By Captain Ed on Presidential Election
Captain's Quarters

After the Boston Globe and reporter Michael Kranish reported that they had executed an SF-180 signed by John Kerry and received his full records, Thomas Lipscomb reminded us that the SF-180 had to be executed carefully in order to actually confirm that the records were complete. He went back to the Boston Globe to get a release of the form itself to determine how it was executed -- and the Globe, instead of operating with transparency for its readers, instead opted to stonewall for Kerry instead:

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Michael Kranish, the Globe reporter who wrote the front page story about receiving Kerry’s “complete medical and military records,” was not happy at being pursued by my questions about how he had made that determination. Kranish finally sent me the following: “The story speaks for itself. Other media have been given access to the same records, and the Kerry office has said it is accepting requests. Your request should go to them. That is our statement.” It sounds more like a response from a lawyer than a reporter.

And The Boston Globe made several calls to editors at the Chicago Sun-Times, complaining that I was giving them the kind of unpleasant treatment reporters give sources who stonewall on questions about matters they think are of vital public interest. They were right. I was. And those questions got the Globe to admit they had the SF-180 two days later.
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What happened to providing full and complete information to their readers? The Boston Globe (owned by the New York Times) appears to have recast their mission into one of advocacy for John Kerry rather than journalism. If so, then the Globe should explicitly state that rather than hide their efforts behind the rapidly-declining credibility of their News section. The SF-180 and the documents uncovered by the Globe should receive the same kind of release that Kerry gave his other military records in order to determine whether Kranish told the truth about it being a complete release, or whether he's hiding something. Failure to provide the evidence strongly suggests the latter.

Read all of Lipscomb's column in E&P.

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To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/12/2005 6:36:41 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Nothing to See Here, Folks . . . Again

By Patterico on Election 2004
Patterico's Pontifications

Pressing work demands caused me to miss the fact that the L.A. Times on Wednesday wrote a story claiming that John Kerry has now released all his military records. Not only did L.A. Times reporter and Kerry sycophant Stephen Braun fail even to mention the fact that Kerry’s grades were lower than Bush’s (a fact emphasized by the nation’s other major papers), he’s once again making it sound like the complete file has been released.

Don’t trust him.

The article is titled "Kerry Makes His Military, Medical File Available". The sub-head reads: “The former presidential candidate’s Vietnam records, including a missing document, offer no surprises. Critics say papers are incomplete.” And the beginning of the article wastes no time in telling us that the critics are liars, because (the article claims) the file is indeed complete:

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All through last year’s presidential race, Vietnam-era critics of Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) charged that he was trying to hide something by refusing to authorize the public release of his entire military and medical file.

On Tuesday, Kerry provided access to his complete records. The long-awaited documents contained no bombshells, and his enemies still were not satisfied.
>>>

Note that the article doesn’t say: “Kerry provided access to what he claimed were his complete records.” It says simply that the records are complete.

But wait, Stephen Braun! Didn’t you tell us during the election that Kerry had already made his military records available? Why, yes — you did! In an article published on August 17, 2004, you wrote:

<<<

[Kerry’s] staff has directed critics to the Massachusetts senator’s military records, which have been posted on his website.
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You didn’t say “some of” his records were posted on his web site, Mr. Braun. You said the records were posted on his web site — which any voter naive enough to trust your reporting would have taken to mean that Kerry had released all of his military records.

You were wrong then. Why should we believe you now?

Critically, the sheaf of documents reviewed by Braun was not provided to him directly by the government, but by Kerry’s office:


<<<

The 180-page sheaf of medal commendations, officer’s fitness reports and medical entries released under federal guidelines by Kerry’s Senate office provided a few new nuggets of information about his 1968 to 1969 stint as a Swift boat commander during the Vietnam War.
>>>

So how in the world does Stephen Braun claim to know that the documents he reviewed are “complete”? He doesn’t say. And what the “critics” say — buried far, far down in the story — sounds pretty convincing:

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[A] former Swift boat officer who led the Navy veterans’ bitter public campaign against Kerry demanded more Tuesday, saying that the file was incomplete.

We asked him to universally release his entire file, and what we’ve seen instead is a parceling out of incomplete records,” said John O’Neill, a Houston lawyer who was a founder of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. The group last year mounted a well-bankrolled advertising campaign to undermine Kerry’s wartime pedigree.

O’Neill expressed doubt that Kerry’s latest document release included material from the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis. But David Wade, a Kerry spokesman, said that the request to Navy Personnel Command to release documents extended to all government record repositories.
>>>

That’s good enough for me! If a Kerry spokesman said it, it must be true!


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In a phone interview from Houston, O’Neill said the Swift boat group was pressing for information about three unresolved controversies from the 2004 race: Kerry’s disputed contention that his Swift boat had entered Cambodian waters about December 1968; wording discrepancies among several versions of Kerry’s medal commendations; and a perceived lag between Kerry’s discharge from the Navy in 1970 and a later departure date in 1978.

If he made a true universal release of his records and not through selective journalists, maybe we could get to the records that would answer some of these questions,” O’Neill said. “If there were orders, for example, that sent him to Cambodia, they should be in his file.”

Navy archives are sometimes incomplete, and Kerry’s latest document release contained no new information on any of those controversies.
>>>

That sounds like some decent evidence that the records are incomplete. I’m missing the part that substantiates the unequivocal assertion made in the second sentence of the article: “On Tuesday, Kerry provided access to his complete records.”

Once again, we are seeing a potentially selective release of records by John Kerry, and once again Stephen Braun is falling for it . . . or trying to get you to fall for it.

Don’t.

And you wonder why I want to file my own FOIA request.

UPDATE: Braun should sit down and have a talk with Thomas H. Lipscomb, who has a recent piece in the Chicago Sun-Times. He also has some real questions about whether Kerry has really released all his records.

UPDATE x2: I remembered that Braun did a pretty good story about Kerry’s sometimes awkward ad-libbing, described here.
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So, while he is overly credulous on the issue of the records, he is capable of writing a good story.

UPDATE x3: The post originally used the erroneous phrase “Thomas H. Lipscomb of the Chicago Sun-Times.” Mr. Lipscomb’s piece was an op-ed. The post has been corrected.

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To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/12/2005 9:43:11 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Questions Remain About Kerry's Military Records

But will the press answer them? The Boston Globe and Los Angeles Times published in-depth accounts this week but, according to Lipscomb, the form that produced the documents may have asked for "anything and everything" or "nothing much at all."

By Thomas Lipscomb
EDITOR & PUBLISHER
(June 11, 2005)

The Boston Globe and The Los Angeles Times initially refused to confirm or deny that they had a copy, or had even seen a copy, of the Standard Form 180 (SF-180) by which Sen. John Kerry’s “complete” military records were released over the past several days. This threw serious doubt on whether either newspaper took sufficient reasonable care in evaluating the chain of transmission by which they received the Kerry documents.

In response to my story in the Chicago Sun-Times on Thursday, the Managing Editor of the Boston Globe, Mary Jane Wilkinson, has now told Sun-Times editors that the Globe does indeed have a copy of Kerry’s Standard Form 180 used in delivering the documents to the Globe. That is reassuring, but it remains to be seen whether the Globe will release copies of the SF-180 in their possession, and that is important.

According to Mark Sullivan, a former Navy JAG officer who worked directly for the Secretary of the Navy, the SF-180 can release anything and everything and nothing much at all, depending on how it is executed. So it is incumbent upon anyone relying on statements, much less making them, concerning the production of documents to examine its wording carefully. One must evaluate it the same way an attorney would examine a request for discovery document in a legal case to see if it is artfully worded in a way not easily apparent to a non-specialist that excludes vital material.

Even when a source is doing their best to cooperate, the maze of the giant government bureaucracy can release some documents and not others for a variety of reasons. Kerry could have been doing his best to release all his documents on the SF-180 and still have things stuck in some subsection of the National Archives.

The Associated Press last summer, after chasing documents on President Bush for four years, finally had to sue for injunctive relief to get the U.S. government to release the last documents. The head of the AP, Tom Curley, told me, “This wasn’t the fault of the White House. They were doing everything they could to help us. But without a court order we couldn’t get the last documents.”

Journalists are seldom specialists.
That is why they consult experts to help them make this kind of evaluation. It is now reasonable to assume that both papers used experts to examine the transmission SF-180 before they gave Kerry the very thing he was looking for: the imprimatur of two great newspapers that he had “provided access to his complete records” (L.A. Times) and that he “authorized the release of his complete medical and military records” (Boston Globe).

But there is still no evidence to support that confirmation, other than their assertion. There may be if, as I hope, these newspapers, or John Kerry himself, decide to reconsider and allow his SF-180 to be examined and the form is indeed filled out properly. In that case their stories are perfectly in order and deserve congratulations and I will be the first to say so.

The day before Globe reporter Michael Kranish released his story on the documents he called Kerry’s nemesis during the presidential campaign, John O’Neill, head of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. He told me he cautioned Kranish about the difficulties of an SF-180 release.

He stated that he sent Kranish directly a copy of his own he had filled out in response to Kerry’s challenge to him to do so on the “Meet the Press” show on January 30 on which Kerry promised to sign his. O’Neill’s SF-180, signed January 31st. was released to the media and has been available online since March 1st.

Now that the Boston Globe has in its possession what it claims are Kerry’s “full military and medical records” is the Globe ready to make these much-anticipated records available to the public?

Managing Editor Mary Jane Wilkinson replied, “It is my understanding that Kerry will release these papers to anyone else now that he has signed the Form 180. The Boston Globe is not going to make available the papers we have received.”

But “the onus is on the Globe to explain why they are not releasing the records. They at least ought to give the public some reason,” according to former journalism dean and Fordham University Larkin professor Everette Dennis.

“With the opportunity to release the Kerry material on the internet inexpensively, there certainly is no physical problem preventing the Globe from publishing them,” Bill Gaines, a two-time Pulitzer Prize winner and Knight Professor of Journalism at the University of Illinois, told me. “The decision they have made certainly doesn’t seem to be in the interest of their readers and not very good journalism.”

Both the Boston Globe and Los Angeles Times claim that Kerry will release any papers in their possession to anyone else who applies. But that isn’t what The New York Sun’s Josh Gerstein found when he called Kerry’s able press representative, David Wade. Gerstein reports: “Asked whether the senator would permit release of the records to The New York Sun, Mr. Wade said, ‘The issue is over.’"

But it isn’t.

And it won’t be until the public has access to the SF-180 which procured release of the papers.

Freedom of Information Act requests for it are now under way. Those requests will most likely be successful, perhaps as early as next week. And there is nothing barring its release before those requests are processed but John Kerry, and The Los Angeles Times and The Boston Globe.

Michael Kranish, the Globe reporter who wrote the front page story about receiving Kerry’s “complete medical and military records,” was not happy at being pursued by my questions about how he had made that determination. Kranish finally sent me the following: “The story speaks for itself. Other media have been given access to the same records, and the Kerry office has said it is accepting requests. Your request should go to them. That is our statement.”

It sounds more like a response from a lawyer than a reporter.

And The Boston Globe made several calls to editors at the Chicago Sun-Times, complaining that I was giving them the kind of unpleasant treatment reporters give sources who stonewall on questions about matters they think are of vital public interest. They were right. I was. And those questions got the Globe to admit they had the SF-180 two days later.

Perhaps now they will release it and even Kerry’s worst critics will find it in order and finally be silenced. In that case, David Wade may be right: “The issue is over.”


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Thomas Lipscomb (letters@editorandpublisher.com) is a senior fellow at the Annenberg Center for the Digital Future at the University of Southern California. He writes regularly for the Chicago Sun-Times.

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To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/14/2005 4:19:19 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Trust, But Verify

John Kerry's Form 180 and what the Old Media still haven't learned.

by Dean Barnett
The Weekly Standard
06/14/2005 12:00:00 AM

DURING THE MOST RECENT PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, various antagonists repeatedly urged John Kerry to sign a Standard Form 180; by signing Form 180, Kerry would have released the entirety of his military records for public consumption. The senator stubbornly refused these pleas. (Actually he "stubbornly refused" in a uniquely Kerry-esque manner. While he kept promising to sign the form and get the information out there, he never quite managed to do so.)

During Kerry's appearance on Meet the Press almost four months ago, Tim Russert once again broached the issue of Kerry signing a Form 180. As he did during the campaign, Kerry promised to sign the form and then spent the ensuing 100+ days taking no action on that front.

But last week finally brought deliverance for those anxious to exhume the carcass of Kerry's political career. According to the Boston Globe and the Los Angeles Times, Kerry signed a Form 180 and his precious military records were issued to them and them alone. Since the released records revealed no new information (other than the fact that Kerry had been something of a dullard during his time at Yale), one would have thought the issue would be closed. In actuality, the interesting dimensions of the story were just beginning to reveal themselves.

IN ORDER TO FOLLOW THIS TALE, it's important to be familiar with some of the minutiae surrounding Form 180.

First, there's the matter of logistics. When one signs a Form 180, he specifies the party or parties to whom the documents will be released. In Kerry's case, the specified parties were apparently the Boston Globe and the Los Angeles Times, two newspapers not known for their hostility towards liberal politicians. Other than the parties you specify on your Form 180, no one else gets the records.

Next, there's the issue of completeness. One can sign a Form 180, but doing so doesn't necessarily mean that you intend to have all of your military records released. If you follow the link and look at an actual Form 180, you'll see an entry for "other information and/or documents requested." Below this point, a veteran can limit the information request in any way he sees fit.

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So, did Kerry limit the scope of his release?

As if answering those who might be inclined to cynicism about their story, the Boston Globe was rather unambiguous in characterizing Kerry's request. Reporter Michael Kranish's story put it this way: "On May 20, Kerry signed a document called Standard Form 180, authorizing the Navy to send an 'undeleted' copy of his 'complete military service record and medical record' to the Globe."

Assuming one trusted the Globe and its reporter implicitly, such strong language would have settled any questions regarding the nature of Kerry's Form 180 execution. As Kranish repeatedly put it during our brief interview, "My story speaks for itself."

After poring through Kerry's records, Kranish's sole piece of new news was the relatively trivial fact that the putatively intellectual senator had a college transcript one would more readily expect from an SEC offensive lineman. But given the charges that various antagonists had lobbed at the senator during and after the campaign, the scoop on Kerry's grades had to be a disappointment for his foes. They had hoped that his full military records would show a chronicle of embarrassments including medals that weren't fully earned, or perhaps even a dishonorable discharge from the Navy because of his meeting with delegates from North Vietnam at the Paris Peace Talks in 1971.

STILL THERE REMAINS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION: Should we trust the Globe and the Times? Both papers are asking their readers to take their word regarding the precise nature of Kerry's Form 180. Had they the inclination, of course, the papers could easily allay any suspicions regarding the nature of Kerry's Form 180 by publishing a reproduction of it or linking to a PDF of it on their respective websites. Members of both the old media and the new media have suggested as much.

The fact that the papers eschewed these options is curious.

After all, when the Globe ran a front -page story on the enormous cost of parking at Fenway Park, the paper saw fit to publish a reproduction of its photographer's receipt which proved that he did in fact pay $100 to park his car for the Opening Day festivities.

What's more, both papers have refused to share Kerry's records with other publications or to post them on their websites. So, in sum, here's where things stand: In order to settle long-standing and serious accusations, Senator Kerry and his campaign dealt exclusively with two partial newspapers. Those papers, in turn, refused to make completely public or transparent either the nature of the transaction or the precise contents of what they received.

SHOULD WE TAKE THEIR STORY ON FAITH?

While Kranish insists his story speaks for itself, also speaking for itself is the Globe's consistent failure to serve as an unbiased and fair reporter when it comes to
political matters. And without impugning Kranish's or the Globe's credentials as impartial arbiters when it comes to John Kerry, it still merits comment that in the story on Kerry's grades as an undergraduate, the Globe's headline referred to Kerry's performance as "lackluster": that's a pretty generous way to describe a record which included four D's in Kerry's freshman year.

Also underscoring the Globe's credibility deficit was Kranish calling Kerry's grades "virtually identical" to President Bush's even though Kerry's grades were demonstrably, albeit slightly, inferior to the president's.

But when it came to covering the Kerry document dump, Kranish and the Globe were tougher than the Los Angeles Times. Amazingly, the Times's Stephen Braun didn't see fit to mention a single word about Kerry's undergraduate performance.

NONE OF WHICH is meant to accuse either the Globe or the Los Angeles Times of wrong-doing. Indeed, quite to the contrary, it is difficult to believe that either institution would jeopardize its reputation by misrepresenting either the contents of Kerry's military records or the nature of his Form 180 request. Although stranger things have happened.

But both papers are guilty of failing to comprehend the shifting dynamic in news coverage and consumption. We live in an age where home-schooled journalists have made a habit of correcting once revered institutions like CBS News and the New York Times.

Serious consumers of news prefer to co-exist with the mainstream media using Ronald Reagan's maxim: Trust, but verify. This means readers and viewers want a gander at primary sources whenever practical. It also means that when a media organ says in effect, "Just trust me", the plea will have precisely the opposite effect of what's intended.

Dean Barnett writes about politics and other matters at soxblog.com

Correction appended, 6/14/05: The piece originally speculated that John Kerry could have been discharge because of an "unauthorized trip to North Vietnam while still an officer in the service." Kerry did not travel to North Vietnam while still in the service; he did meet with delegates from North Vietnam at the Paris Peace Talks in 1971.

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To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/21/2005 12:50:53 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
You Saw Them Here First

Power Line

Via the Freedom of Information Act, a reader obtained copies of the Form 180s that were recently signed by John Kerry to permit, at long last, the release of his military records. I believe there may be a story about this in the New York Sun tomorrow, and no doubt more commentary will be forthcoming over the next few days. Here are the three documents that Kerry signed; on their face, I don't see anything wrong with them, but then, I'm no expert in military personnel records. We look forward to our readers' comments. Here is the first one; click to view:

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And the second:

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And the third:

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To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/21/2005 4:54:01 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
The Form 180s

By Captain Ed on Presidential Election
Captain's Quarters

Power Line has the SF-180s signed by John Kerry releasing his military records posted at their site. Each one authorizes the release of Kerry's complete military record to only one entity each -- the AP (Glen Johnson), the LA Times (Steve Braun), and the Boston Globe (Michael Kranish). A Power Line reader got copies of the 180s through a Freedom of Information Act request, which got him the signed forms but not the records themselves.

It would appear from these forms that the three news outlets have access to the complete records, if they got them straight from the Navy, as the release form authorizes them to do, one time only. Interestingly, none of the three has released Kerry's records in PDF or any other format -- only written articles reviewing the data that they have found. It would appear that the Globe, Times, and AP have access to the answers for questions that have been left unanswered from Kerry's own dossier of published material, such as his original discharge and the circumstances, the exact dates of his command assignments (re the January 29th action for PCF-94 and whether Tedd Peck commanded the boat or Kerry), and other data related to various questions raised by the Swift Vets.

Their reluctance to supply those records in their unexpurgated form suggests that Kerry reached an agreement with the three organizations regarding how much information could be released and in what form. If so, the three should disclose this agreement, or if not, they should have scanned the material and made it available to the public. Playing cat and mouse with the material, especially more than a year after George Bush released his to all media sources requesting the data, indicates that Kerry still cannot risk total exposure.

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To: Sully- who wrote (11184)6/21/2005 7:32:36 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
You Saw Them Here First (UPDATE)

Power Line

The only apparent anomaly in the Form 180s is that they only authorize the release of Kerry's active duty records, not his reserve records. This could well be important, in that Kerry's antiwar activities occurred when he was a member of the reserves. On the other hand, some think that the language of the 180 is broad enough that the Navy may have released Kerry's reserve records, even though not specifically instructed to.

The people who know, of course, are the reporters to whom the documents were sent. This is a very weird procedure--authorizing the records to be released, but only to specified reporters. It raises obvious questions: did the reporters discuss their role with Kerry or his representative before they were designated to receive the records? Were they required to agree not to make the records public, but only to report on them? What other discussions did they have with Kerry or his representatives? Are they willing to release the records, or at a minimum give us an inventory of what they received so that we can assess the completeness of the disclosure? I have phone calls in to two of the reporters, and will attempt to interview them.

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