To: Sun Tzu who wrote (163853 ) 6/8/2005 1:29:58 PM From: geode00 Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 Well, I daresay, you've managed to find the solution on your own. "...are better now than they were a 100 years ago and were better a 100 years ago than 200 years ago and so on." I believe that most people can agree that this is true. From an objective standpoint: length of life, ease of acquiring resources, reduction of risk, etc. this is true. So, what has changed in that time period? People haven't changed, evolution doesn't work that fast. The world hasn't changed, animals and plants haven't changed. What's changed is the amount of knowledge that we, as a species, have accumulated. That, IMO, is the difference between humans and, say, chimps. Each individual doesn't have to reinvent the wheel during his lifetime, we all benefit from the knowledge that others (whom we'll never meet) have accumulated. Therefore, this argument doesn't hold: " fanatical madrassas and your ideal school" I don't have an 'ideal' anything but I know that madrassas aren't about education, they're about propaganda. The same holds true for any schools attempting to treat creationism on a par with evolution. This isn't about ideology, it's about asking the daisychain of questions about a subject: yes, but.... Try asking 'yes, but' about creationism and the answer is always 'just believe.' I don't see the Tibetan (or any other lifestyle including ours) as an ideal. I don't see the clinging to the lifestyle you were accidentally born into as any kind of ideal. If enough people do that, we stop accumulating knowledge and stop moving forward. If we do that, what's the point in just taking up space doing things exactly as your ancestors did? Aside from being boring, it is, IMO totally pointless.