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To: Mana who wrote (685139)6/8/2005 5:06:47 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769670
 
Interesting, Mana....

You do see, don't you, that there is more then a little contradiction between some of those varied definitions for what 'conservative' means?

For example: saying that one is for a smaller, less intrusive government flies in the face of *calling upon* a BIGGER, more POWERFUL government to regulate what people can, and what they are not allowed to do with their personal lives.

You gave the example of the Constitution Party as a group with who's views you identify....

Yet note this quote from their platform statement about 'pornography' that illustrates my point: "We call on our local, state and federal governments to uphold our cherished First Amendment right to free speech by vigorously enforcing our laws against obscenity", ie... they are calling upon a 'Big Daddy' Government to regulate by means of criminal sanctions what others can do or say.

(As the famous SC opinion said: 'I know it when I see it'... yet 'offensive speech' is indisputably a matter of definition. Reasonable people can and do disagree about what is 'offensive' and what isn't.)

As a Libertarian I would tell you that when you REQUIRE a strong central government to enforce your mores upon the public ...you wind up with bigger more intrusive government.... and *bigger* governments do not come *cheaply* so, to a certain extent, that puts #2 & #1 in conflict.

As far as your comment "That is the socialist's definition of a religious conservative." to one of my questions [Is a 'RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVE', someone who is willing to enable a bigger, more Authoritarian government so it can be called upon to enforce their religious dogma on other Americans, restricting individual freedoms in the name of particular religious precepts?]... all I can say is that you statement is TOTALLY NON-SENSICAL.

'Socialism' is an ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHY. That isn't even relevant to the adoption of Authoritarian means by the State to enforce social mores. That's 'apples and oranges' stuff.

(By the way: I'm a CONFIRMED Capitalist and Free Marketer... NOT a 'Socialist'.... And, to answer my own questions, I'm a #1, #3, #5 'Conservative', and neutral on #4. What I am not is a #2 'Religious conservative'.)

That is, I'm a strong FISCAL CONSERVATIVE (low tax, balanced budgets, fiscal prudence, small government), LIBERTARIAN, ANTI-INTERVENTIONIST... and neutral as to whether ideas are 'new' or 'old'. (I'm a pragmatist so, what works... works. :)

If you think those views align me with the 'Democratic Party' then you must be delusional... they are as pro-big government as their Republican counter-parts are. It's just that they each want a Big Government for *different reasons*....