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To: Lane3 who wrote (119044)	6/9/2005 2:46:06 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793813

I agree that, in practice, it can get fuzzy at the margins but the concepts are very different. It's not useful to ignore broad concepts to focus on fuzzy margins. But there are many cases in which identity and assumed POV are pretty powerfully connected. For example, the idea of a black conservative Republican seems to some blacks (and to some whites) an impossibility -- if one is a conservative republican, one can't be a "true" black. And the assumed characteristics of Jews are so strong in many cases that they have for some people become part of the identity of a Jew, especially a Jewish mother. Fat people are lazy. Poles, and Irish, and Germans, and Italians, are, well, you know the stereotypes -- and they aren't casual stereotypes; they are considered by more than a few people inherent characteristics of that identity group. I don't think it just gets fuzzy at the margins. I think it's often inextricably intertwined.