To: RetiredNow who wrote (236546 ) 6/9/2005 9:21:04 PM From: tejek Respond to of 1571001 As to your first concern, I don't like any attitude like that on our part either. But I think the flip side to this coin is that the World still draws us into ever petty squable. The world sees us as the logical arbitrator to alot of issues, so we get sucked back in. I can't buy that explanation. The world told us to slow down with Iraq and we didn't listen.As far as your second concern, I think you don't give the American people enough credit. I know there are many Republicans today that feel like declaring themselves Independents, because they don't like the neocon thinking, yet they think the Democrats are hopeless negative and offer no vision of their own. They don't have to join the Dems. They simply have to speak out. Where are their voices? I'm not hearing them. The reason why Bush was re-elected is pretty simple. People were and are scared. But, MM, that's because Bush has scared them. Why can't Americans take the time to figure that one out? The crazy world out there used to be ignored, but that crazy world has come crashing down into our world and people have lost the invincible feeling. Look......we have had two attacks in 15 years.....that's hardly crashing down on us. I am afraid Ameiricans have so blown 9/11 out of proportion, and in their fear, are lashing out. Its making things worse rather than better. When a country as big as the US is hit, cooler heads need to prevail. We should never have started the war in Afghanistan nor in Iraq. Afghanistan is hindsight for me....with Iraq, I knew that it was a huge mistake from the get go. Bush, as flawed as he is, was able to tap into that fear and make people believe that he would take off the gloves and go after those people that hurt us. The Democrats weren't able to offer a vision that tapped into that fear. Most people believed the Democrats felt that this terrorism thing was a policing issue, not a military issue. So Bush got re-elected. The last thing you want to do is to tap into the public's fear unless you have some other agenda you want to run.As far as the wealthy hijacking America, I have become increasingly alarmed at the growing wealth divide as well. It is obvious that Bush has been lining corporate pockets since the day he was elected. I believed in the need for tax cuts right after 9/11 to get our economy a shot in the arm. However, I didn't agree with the type of tax cuts he passed and I don't agree with the longevity of those tax cuts in the face of soaring deficits. I'm so pissed that Republicans have become profligate spenders, that I just may vote Democrat again in 2008 or at the very least Libertarian. I think many true Republicans feel the same way I do. My GOP friends here agree with you. Its very frustrating......I am a social liberal but I am a fiscal conservative and it kills me what the GOP congress is doing with our money.Basically, everything you said in the second half of your post, I agree with. BTW, I think you should move somewhere else for a little while. I lived in Spain for a couple years when I was younger. I've also traveled extensively to just about every corner of the earth. Living abroad is critical if you really want to gain a balanced perspective. What is ironic is that when you live abroad you come to understand the other points of view, that is true, but you also come to love the U.S. all the more. Actually, I know what you mean.......I spent two summers over in Europe and at the end of each summer, I was really glad to get home. If I emigrated, it would be to Canada......not Europe.Because you realize that despite all it's warts, the world desperately needs to believe in America and what it has stood for in the past. I use to have the same attitude but I think things have changed for me. I will know better when I visit friends in Germany next year. This recent shattering of our image is a tragedy for Americans, but equally so for the rest of the world. It's like everyone woke up and Superman was doing coke, beating people up, and whoring around. No one likes what has happened to America. So in the end I believe, the people who have always looked up to us will help us get our image back, once we have another moderate President in place that does more listening than blustering. Good words. I sincerely hope you are right and that its not different this time. We'll see. ted