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To: Lane3 who wrote (119221)	6/10/2005 8:30:56 AM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793843

I get an automatic reaction when it comes to sociologists. This is not a self parody. unc.edu

To: Lane3 who wrote (119221)	6/10/2005 11:16:59 AM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793843

First of all, the examples you chose to clip were not the context we were discussing; they were examples. But take your argument "Fur wearers are not an identity group. No one ever answered "I'm a fur wearer" to the question of "tell us something about yourself." Fur wearing is an act, an individual act. One can reasonably conclude that the individual is ignorant of or unconcerned about the terrible suffering of the furry creatures who comprise his coat. If the act occurs in a temperate climate, one might reasonably conclude that she's rich or is close to someone who is rich or that she likes to show off. We draw conclusions from people's acts. And we may disapprove of those individuals and react to them on that basis just as we would of anyone who engaged in that act. That has nothing to do with the bigotry of stereotyping." In fact, if the reaction to the fur wearer is automatic and without any concern for the individual involved, it is indeed stereotyping (if they're wearing fur they are ignorant or unconcerned about ...) That's exactly what stereotyping is -- see a charactistic of a person, draw an immediate and automatic conclusion. If becomes bigotry if the response to it is extreme and hostile. I can see somebody wearing fur and can think "what an insensitive person" and that's stereotyping but not bigotry. But someone else may pull a can of spray paint out of their pocket and immediately, without any interaction with the person to find out WHY they are wearing fur, spray paint the fur, or follow them down the street yelling at them. That's bigotry.