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To: redfish who wrote (105869)	6/10/2005 5:08:49 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I don't think attacking people who want Dean to be a little bit more polite is the answer for the democratic party. There are a lot of religious people in this country, and a lot of white people- quite a few of those people are probably democrats (with approximately 76% of people in the US identifying themselves as Christian, you KNOW there have to be.) Even if it were true, sometimes saying something ugly like that turns off more people than it would attract. What Dean said makes it sound like it's bad to be white and/or Christian- I'm not sure that's the kind of message we want to send out to attract people to the democratic party. At it's best we can classify it as a true statement which is race baiting, and religion baiting; at it's worst we can classify it as race baiting and religious baiting, and also false (I have to go with race baiting and false, myself- but either way we classify it, it's bad.) IMO this isn't about "truth" it's about appealing to the worst side of people- and in this case it probably isn't even an affective appeal.

To: redfish who wrote (105869)	6/10/2005 6:09:10 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 108807

"jettison those who slam Dean" Attaway. There is a home for such folks. Remember Zell Miller. Obama recently said Dean was using religion to divide people. Hope you'll keep that in mind.

To: redfish who wrote (105869)	6/11/2005 11:14:15 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

The Democrats are SO marginalized and out of power as a party, that they really need to do everything right if they have any hope at all of regaining much in the upcoming elections. I suspect there may be people who are a bit more diplomatic than Dean, and might do a better job of running the party without antagonizing independents, who they are going to have to pick up if they have any hope of success. This does not mean that the Democrats have to become more conservative or change their core beliefs. But why can't they just be reasonably polite, and attack the Republicans based on the great harm some of their programs are doing, rather than just alienate people based on bad attitude?