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To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (685331)6/10/2005 10:44:18 PM
From: JBTFD  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769667
 
The mistake in that post is this statement:

"Why does Alec Baldwin, Madonna, Sean Penn and other Hollywood types make front page news with their anti-everything America crap"

I've NEVER seen any of above on the front page as stated. Have you? Really now, be truthful.

Another case of republican hyperbole.



To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (685331)6/10/2005 11:15:33 PM
From: steve harris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
look what Drudge found....

news.yahoo.com



To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (685331)6/11/2005 8:25:24 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Pope opposes IVF Technology and Condoms:

June 11, 2005
Vote on Fertility Law Fires Passions in Italy

By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL and ELISABETTA POVOLEDO,
International Herald Tribune
nytimes.com

MILAN, June 9 - As Italy's most powerful men - from politicians to bishops - debated the ethics of the country's restrictive fertility law this week, Lorena Pennati lay gingerly in a hospital bed here, rubbing the sore spot where doctors had just removed nine of her eggs.

Because of the law's strict limits on the use of eggs, sperm and embryos - the subject of a contentious national referendum here this weekend - Ms. Pennati, 34, is embarking on what doctors universally regard as substandard infertility treatment.

Since the law passed last year, the only treatment now permissible in Italy produces less than half as many pregnancies as the usual care does in many cases, a new study shows. As a result, doctors say, Italians with money now travel for treatment - to Spain, Switzerland or Ukraine.

In her quest for a baby, Ms. Pennati had undergone weeks of painful and risky injections to produce the eggs that will be now be combined with her husband's sperm. As millions of Italians head to the polls on Sunday to decide whether to repeal some parts of the law, Ms. Pennati is scheduled to have the embryos placed in her womb. The chance of a pregnancy is very low, she knows.

"Everyone presents this as a political or religious position, but no one looks at this from the point of view of women and how it touches their lives," Ms. Pennati said, her husband huddled at her bedside. Perhaps no political issue since the 1981 vote on abortion has fired public passion and divided the country like the coming referendum, tearing rifts in political parties and setting off public debates between politicians and their wives.

The law, the most restrictive on medically assisted fertility in Europe, closely controls the creation and use of human embryos. Doctors cannot test embryos for genetic defects or freeze them in order to better a woman's chances of pregnancy, a method Ms. Pennati probably would have used were it not for the law. Researchers cannot use them to perform stem cell research.

Pope Benedict XVI expressed support for the law last week. It was his first foray into Italian politics.

The debate consumes the front page of every newspaper and seems to be the only topic on Italy's evening television talk shows. The opposing sides have plastered thousands of posters along the streets of Rome - featuring beaming starlets, earnest scientists, nursing mothers and even cute swimming sperm.

"We all come from embryos," says one advertisement, aiming to keep the law in place. From the other side, "Assisted fertility works," read a poster featuring an image of the Virgin Mary and Child.

For the referendum to count, at least half of the nearly 50 million Italian voters must vote, a high bar. Indeed, in a strategic attempt to jettison the referendum and keep the infertility law intact, Italian prelates have told parishioners to head to the beach instead of the polling places on Sunday and Monday, so that the quorum will not be met.

Whichever side wins, the political fallout has already been significant. Gianfranco Fini, Italy's foreign minister and the head of one of Italy's major conservative political parties, is facing an in-house rebellion after announcing that he would vote to overturn part of the law. Francesco Rutelli, a leader of the center-left opposition drew howls of protest when he said he would abstain.

Normally outspoken politicians like Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi have so far refused to take a public position. (He says only that his wife favors repeal.)

Some Italians said they were appalled that Roman Catholic Church leaders and elected officials would encourage people not to vote. "It's absurd that they would urge us not to exercise the most democratic instrument the citizen has," said Licio Zanetti, 44, a stockbroker.

Agata Fantauzzi, 33, an office cleaner in a black ITALIA sweatshirt, said she would heed the church's call not to vote, in order to protect the law. "We were all embryos once," she said. "I wouldn't have wanted to have been manipulated."

Such arguments hold little sway in the infertility clinic here, where Italian law has made treatment more risky and curtailed patients' options. Infertile couples may not use donated eggs, for example, required for success in many women over 40.

In much of the world, infertility patients take weeks of hormone injections to produce a large number of eggs, which are then combined with sperm to produce embryos. These are tested for genetic problems and then frozen for future use in as many pregnancy attempts as necessary. Because of the relatively high rate of miscarriage in medically assisted fertility, two to three embryos are generally placed in the womb per attempt.

But in Italy, embryos - considered under the law to be sacred human lives - can no longer be tested or stored; only eggs can be frozen, and they tend to lose potency. According to the law, exactly three harvested eggs are used in each attempt to create embryos, which must be immediately implanted in the womb.

But medically assisted fertility is an imperfect science, so three eggs often yield no embryos at all, requiring the woman to start over.

Pope Assails Condom Use

VATICAN CITY, June 10 (Reuters) - In a speech on Friday to bishops from five African countries, Pope Benedict XVI attacked the use of condoms to fight H.I.V. and AIDS, saying the church was leading the fight against the epidemic by teaching chastity and fidelity.

He urged the bishops - from South Africa, Botswana, Swaziland, Namibia and Lesotho - to work to fight the virus.

* Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company



To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (685331)6/11/2005 10:07:12 AM
From: gerard mangiardi  Respond to of 769667
 
No the real question is why does our government ignore the needs of families of or troops and not put up the money itself.



To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (685331)6/11/2005 4:12:10 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Respond to of 769667
 
That is an excellent question.....my first instinct of course is to say that there is bias in the media.....but they always tell me this isn't so.



To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (685331)6/11/2005 4:12:45 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Respond to of 769667
 
Denzel donation salutes GIs

Denzel Washington has fulfilled a promise after a December visit to a military hospital where wounded U.S. soldiers recuperated.

The Oscar-winning actor and his wife, Pauletta, gave an undisclosed donation to Fisher House Foundation Inc., which helps families of hospitalized military personnel, the Houston Chronicle reported.

"While we do not disclose the amount of a donation without approval from the donor, we can acknowledge that it is one of the most significant received in our history," said James Weiskopf, the foundation's vice president for communications, who added that the check arrived several weeks ago. Washington and his wife also accepted an invitation to serve on the board of trustees, Weiskopf said. Washington visited the Brooke Army Medical Center in Fort Sam Houston, Texas, six months ago.


denverpost.com



To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (685331)6/13/2005 9:23:41 AM
From: Proud_Infidel  Respond to of 769667
 
Rep. Duncan Hunter, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, defended the Guantanamo facility and flatly rejected suggestions that prisoners are mistreated.

"I think that's accepting a falsehood and giving to the American people that somehow we don't treat prisoners right," said Hunter, a Republican from California.

Hunter cited a menu of food served to prisoners Sunday -- including oven-fried chicken, rice pilaf, fruit and pita bread -- as a sign that they are treated well.

"These are the people who tried to kill us," he said. "It includes the guy -- the 20th hijacker, that was Mr. Qahtani who was caught coming in -- who didn't make it to the planes that drove into New York," Hunter said following an appearance on "Fox News Sunday."

Earlier on the program, Hunter said the "legend" of Guantanamo Bay is "different than the fact" and repeatedly cited the menu.

"Here you have a guy who was on his way to kill 5,000 Americans," he said. "And we have people complaining because he had a dog bark at him in Guantanamo."