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To: neolib who wrote (236783)6/11/2005 2:10:39 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576749
 
The root problem in this case is that you have some Islamic fundamentalists and some Baathists who would rather rule the country than have the current government be in charge.

I'd say your view is what Bush & most Americans think. IMO, it underestimates the issue, which is the classic failing those dealing with insurgencies have.


Yes. They underestimate the issue and they downplay the number of insurgents.

There are more profound issues, such as how Arab's in general view the USA, the US's ties to Israel, USA's conflation of oil & security vs respect for Iraq, and heavy handed military policies. When I was in Rhodesia, many blacks actually liked white rule, especially if they looked around at conditions in other black African countries at the time. The whites actually transitioned to an elected black government with safeguards for whites (under a former terror leader that opted into the political process) while the others (Mugabe & Nkomo) kept fighting a terror war. Lots of blacks voted in the election and most I talked to expressed support for that elected government. But Mugabe won in the end, for various reasons that should have been evident to anyone who stopped to think about human nature & the issue of fairness.

Did you see that one of the African nations is asking that whites come back in and farm the land? The gov't is promising they will not be molested. I thought that took a lot of balls for the gov't to admit........that they can't manage without the whites.

ted



To: neolib who wrote (236783)6/15/2005 6:26:00 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576749
 
There are more profound issues, such as how Arab's in general view the USA, the US's ties to Israel, USA's conflation of oil & security vs respect for Iraq, and heavy handed military policies.

Those are all potential issues, some of them are important issues, but none of them are THE issue in Iraq. I'll have to disagree with you on this one. I stand by my earlier statement "The root problem in this case is that you have some Islamic fundamentalists and some Baathists who would rather rule the country than have the current government be in charge." Yes there is a back story to that fact, and there are issues that effect the insurgency, but that back story and those issues, are not the root issue themselves.

Tim