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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Oral Roberts who wrote (105954)	6/12/2005 12:17:59 PM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 108807

Okay, I see what you are saying, but my misunderstanding of it was not malicious as you seem to believe. The entire discussion of global warming at Feelies as far as I can remember has been based on the concept of global warming as tied to human activity. So when you start talking about ice ages and natural climate changes, it seems the same to me as saying it doesn't exist, because I am talking about man-made global warming. It also suggests that there is nothing we can do about it, since it is "natural." Why do you think British Petroleum came out ahead of the other large corporations, particularly in the carbon industry, trying to address global warming, and acknowledging that it was caused by human activity? What do you think they had to gain by this, if it was not accurate scientifically? I try to pay a lot of attention to what people say and believe. It is really difficult when people offer no evidence of their own when they answer my posts, except to insult me personally and repudiate all my sources, many of which are expert or scientific. How can I take opinions like that seriously? At least I try to offer documentation of my views, and would really appreciate if others did. That way perhaps we could all be involved in a learning process of some sort. A particularly good example is the article about the conservative right and factory farming. The author is a conservative, Bush's former senior speech writer, who has written a book about factory farming. Now this is no leftist vegan hippie, and he talks about dominion in terms of the way we treat farm animals, just like you did in a previous post. You say you read most of what I post, but you always seem to ridicule whatever sources I use, and I don't think you could fairly ridicule this article, which was the cover story in the magazine The American Conservative. I also post articles from agricultural university sources, with footnotes. At this point I have to believe that you are simply an ideologue and not open to any ideas about this subject that you do not already hold, and that would be fine if you just said that, but instead you continually impugn my sources and me personally, and I think that is unfair. I like to talk with people who hold different views than I do. I just try to keep the discussion reasonably civil and about ideas instead of personalities. I have no idea why you have so much animosity towards me; I certainly don't feel that way about you.