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To: Alighieri who wrote (237134)6/14/2005 10:40:35 AM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576022
 
Americans still believe that this war was built on anything but a sack of fabrications,

Still others believe the Iraq war was based on 9/11 , even if the links were misguided. The truth is Junior and his advisors were planning on having a war even before the 2000 election and had already decided on Iraq as being the easiest country to pushover. Bush told his biographer, Mickey Herskowitz, that he would have to be seen as "commander in chief" if he was to be taken as a strong leader and for that he needed to conquer someone. I guess Grenada was no longer available.

TP



To: Alighieri who wrote (237134)6/14/2005 1:37:35 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576022
 
Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.

What's amazing to me is that many Americans still believe that this war was built on anything but a sack of fabrications, exagerations, outright lies. Do we really need a british memo to tell us what should be amply obvious? Remember Paul O'Neil's book? Here's an insider who told us a year ago that bush came in with this saddam fixation. Remember Richard Clarke? He told us that bush was rhetorically "asking" him to find a connection. These revelations weren't enough?


Yes, we've all 'known' about Bush's Saddam obsession. And we all 'knew' that Bush played with us when he said there were WMDs in Iraq but Bush has blamed the misunderstanding on poor intelligence. This memo provides the proof of what we all 'knew'.......that it wasn't poor intelligence but willful intent that created the misunderstanding. It 'indicts' Bush [and Blair] in a way the media couldn't.

I think it's very damning for blair, because the memo is addressed to him and his cabinet. In other words, he is being told that bush is fixing intel around a preconceived war policy and he still commits britain to war. Man...that's explosive evidence of wrong doing. How's this guy holding on to his job?

His party took a beating in the last election and the party members who oppose him are trying to get him to quit by next year. However, he is still popular to some degree in the UK. Charisma is a hard thing to tarnish and he has lots of charisma. The Brits are having a hard time letting go but I think this memo will do the trick.

Now its important that there continue to be the media build in the US over this memo. Conyers is supposed take his petition to the White House on Thursday. Understand this petition is grassroots America at its very best. Any action taken against Bush will have to come from the people...........Congress is too much in his back pocket.

However, the American media is still holding back. That's why Move on has asked petition signers to send emails or call their favorite news station. It infuriates me that the corporate heads of these stations are playing ball with Bush.

ted



To: Alighieri who wrote (237134)6/14/2005 7:43:03 PM
From: steve harris  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576022
 
What's amazing to me is the losers who refuse to admit defeat and consider their failures concerning their losses in the last two presidential elections...



To: Alighieri who wrote (237134)6/14/2005 7:44:55 PM
From: steve harris  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576022
 
I think it's very damning for blair, because the memo is addressed to him and his cabinet.

It's even more damning that you ABB guys will not post who created this alleged memo...