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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (237301)	6/15/2005 12:38:11 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1572776

I hear you and you make a good point. However, I think that going back thousands of years to make a point of how to solve the problem today just isn't practical. We should go back only as far as about 50 years. What is practical is the two state solution and Israel withdrawing from the West Bank and Gaza to make that happen. Everything else is just extremists trying to get the world to espouse their points of view. Now back to who has a right to the land after that, I think each sovereign country makes its own decisions. In America, we decided long ago that the world should "give us your tired, your poor, etc". In other words, America is a place for anyone seeking freedom and opportunity. The Jews decided they wanted to create a country very much like America, but was open primarily for any Jews seeking freedom and opportunity. That is their right as a sovereign nation. Let's also keep in mind that Muslims are no better than the Jews in this regard. In Muslim lands, the "infidel" will always be a second class citizen. They are raised to believe this, because that's what the Qu'ran says. Now, I personally disagree with a country that creates a priveleged class and treats all others as second class citizens. I think it is ultimately doomed to failure, because it is planting the seeds of revolution in its own womb. That is why America has been built to stand the test of time. We integrate anyone who wants to be integrated. I personally believe that Israel and all the Muslim countries around it have a lot of growing up to do. Once they can build governments based on integration and equality, they will be fit to join true civilization. Until then, they will always be little better than warring tribes.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (237301)	6/15/2005 2:42:22 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572776

What are the facts about the Jews? (I call them Jews to you, because they are known as Jews. I don't call them Jews myself. I refer to them as so-called Jews, because I know what they are.) The eastern European Jews, who form 92 per cent of the world's population of those people who call themselves Jews, were originally Khazars. They were a warlike tribe who lived deep in the heart of Asia. And they were so warlike that even the Asiatics drove them out of Asia into eastern Europe. They set up a large Khazar kingdom of 800,000 square miles. At the time, Russia did not exist, nor did many other European countries. The Khazar kingdom was the biggest country in all Europe -- so big and so powerful that when the other monarchs wanted to go to war, the Khazars would lend them 40,000 soldiers. That's how big and powerful they were." There is no claim to Palestine from these non-Middle Easterners. That's not the explanation in the second link provided by McMannis. In fact, its believed that the Khazars may have been one of the Ten Lost Tribes and its believed they hale from the Mesopotamia [aka Iraq] which is deep in the heart of the ME. And even if that weren't true, 8% of them did hale directly from the Palestine region. By why is any of this important at this late date? Israel is a done deal.......its not going away.