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To: coug who wrote (22544)	6/16/2005 10:13:27 PM
From: SiouxPal	Respond to of 360927

Those 15 or so Reps at today's Conyers meeting will use this meeting as a starting point IMO. They needed a venue for what I hope will be a groundswell of support for at least showing how evil Bush has been. Impeaching? Maybe not with the current congress. 2006 may be a rosey election year.

To: coug who wrote (22544)	6/16/2005 10:25:52 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 360927

I am way out of my area of expertise here We can tell. Where one needs the consent of congress to declare war. But Clinton did before Yugoslavia, right? Where were you then, hypocrite? Congress DID invoke the War Powers Act. I think that's all that's these days. Sure seems to be.

To: coug who wrote (22544)	6/16/2005 11:04:09 PM
From: CalculatedRisk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 360927

I consider Bush immoral, mendacious, even evil, but not treasonous.

To: coug who wrote (22544)	6/16/2005 11:13:07 PM
From: CalculatedRisk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 360927

coug, don't get me wrong. I think my post was a harsh criticism of Bush. Bush is mendacious, incompetent, arrogant and probably a war criminal. He has endangered America and the world. Its just that I think "treason" is narrowly defined, and IMO Bush's actions haven't met the definition.

To: coug who wrote (22544)	6/17/2005 1:30:25 AM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 360927

US Constitution, Article III, Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted. ======== Article II, Section 4 The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. ======== Definition of levying levy verb levies, levied, levying 1. To calculate and then collect (a tax, etc). Thesaurus: tax, collect, demand, assess, exact, raise.2. To raise (an army or the money needed to fund a war). Thesaurus: conscript, raise, summon, assemble, call, muster. ======= Is it possible to find a way to connect these definitions with lying to get us to go to war?

To: coug who wrote (22544)	6/17/2005 1:45:51 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 360927

"Do you consider undermining our constitution, treason? Where one needs the consent of congress to declare war. Bush didn't get that.. And what do we have now?.. WAR.. You are not declaring war are you? We are not at war with any nation to my knowledge. Our military is deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan and various other locations in the world in an effort to support the existing governments in there efforts to establish security. There is some vague notion of war against terrorism, which I equate to the war on drugs type of rhetoric. It's more like a stance than an actual declaration of War.