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To: Grainne who wrote (106210)	6/18/2005 2:53:18 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 108807

I would define most Bush supporters, and supporters of the Iraq war, as conservatives. I wouldn't. I know some -- certainly not all, but some -- liberals (self-defined, and also generally perceived in their community as liberal) who support the Iraq war because they believe that it is the obligation of a free people to help unfree people become free, and clearly Iraqis under Saddam were not free and had no reasonable opportunity to become free under his tyranny. They see military action as the last resort, but believe that at times is is the only reasonable option. For the same reason, they support military intervention in Somalia. They would much prefer that such actions be taken under the auspices of the UN, but the UN, by virtue of the equal weight given to votes by the largest and the smallest, the richest and the poorest, the freest and the least free nations, is basically unable to find the political will to intervene in such cases. Keep in mind that the French who helped us in our own war for freedom from England were certainly liberals by the definition of that day. Support of liberty has, at least until recently, been a hallmark of liberal principles, hasn't it? Defining people who support certain people or causes as necesssarily liberal or conservative is, IMO, simplistic and denies the complexity of life and political philosophy.