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Politics : Rat's Nest - Chronicles of Collapse -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (376)	6/20/2005 12:59:54 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24211

So what do you think? Road warrior world? Could happen if we hit the wall fast enuf. Security is enuf of a concern that the biggest hippie-vegan peacenik on our steering committee was the first to bring up the need for some kind of local security force. Some see the threat more from our local low-lifers than the rats, err, lemmings, yeah, lemmings :>) leaving the City. I'm hoping for a more orderly transition, which is already beginning in Europe and Japan. Maybe a series of recessions, slowing things down to give us more time. Henry's flu pandemic could do it, too, altho I remain skeptical about the prospects. I get the feeling that we are really close to plateau; I'm not sure we can increase production by another 10%. Conservation and more efficient use will buy us some time, but overall world growth has got to slow down,and, at some point stabilize, until we can make energy cheap again; probably when everything has gone renewable. India is already on the cusp of an electrical crisis, and China is starting to feel it; the American Empire might end up surviving by attrition. Other than that, I don't see how we are going to make it. California is working on another solar plan; Million solar houses. I haven't been following the details, but consider this. I'm gonna get a small system, 8 panels max, cuz I use very little juice. Figure double or triple that for the average homeowner who wants to break even; that's 16 mil panels, minimum. Where are they? There is a shortage right now. All the panels at my contractor's warehouse are already committed. If I'm lucky, mine are on a ship somewhere, but they were told they just had one month's shipment cancelled. Don't see how we are going to make it in time, without severe problems.