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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jmhollen who wrote (686276)	6/19/2005 9:35:29 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

And they won't show the 911 bombings anymore, because the kids might get the "wrong" idea...

To: jmhollen who wrote (686276)	6/19/2005 9:36:56 PM
From: jmhollen	Respond to of 769670

WW-II: Axis Forces Country Pop. Killed/Mising Wounded Total(Military) Civilian (deaths) Germany 78m 3.5 million 4.6 million 8.1 million 2million Italy 44m 330,000 ? 70,000 Japan 72m 1.75 million ? 350,000 Rumania 20m 500,000 300,000 800,000 400,000 Bulgaria 6m 10,000 ? 50,000 Hungary 10m 120,000 250,000 370,000 200,000 Finland 4m 100,000 45,000 145,000 4,000 Country Pop. Killed/Mising Wounded Total(Military) Civilian (deaths) Allied Forces (in order of entry into the war) Country Pop. Killed/Mising Wounded Total(Military) Civilian (deaths) China 450m 1.3 million 1.8 million 3.1 million 9 million Poland 35m 130,000 200,000 330,000 2.5million U.K. 48m 400,000 300,000 700,000 60,000 France 42m 250,000 350,000 600,000 270,000 Australia 7m 30,000 40,000 70,000 -- India 360m 36,000 64,000 100,000 -- New Zealand 2m 10,000 20,000 30,000 -- So. Africa 10m 9,000 14,000 23,000 -- Canada 11m 42,000 50,000 92,000 -- Denmark 4m 2,000 ? ? 1,000 Norway 3m 10,000 ? ? 6,000 Belgium 8m 12,000 16,000 28,000 100,000 Holland 9m 14,000 7,000 21,000 250,000 Greece 7m 90,000 ? ? 400,000 Yugoslavia 15m 320,000 ? ? 1.3million U.S.S.R. 194m 9 million 18 million 27 million 19 million U.S.A. 129m 300,000 300,000 600,000 --

To: jmhollen who wrote (686276)	6/20/2005 8:28:52 AM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"And, though sad, that's the current price for safe skies in America " Run that by me again, how was Iraq involved in 9/11? I thought that was OBL and other Saudi terrorists, not Iraqi terrorists (Iraqi terrorists making our skies unsafe didn't exist before 9/11 but they surely do now after the occupation of their country). The 1,700 dead lost their lives in Iraq, not fighting to stop those that actually have caused America harm.

To: jmhollen who wrote (686276)	6/20/2005 8:34:49 AM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"Highly classified documents leaked in Britain appear to provide new evidence that President Bush and his national security team decided to invade Iraq much earlier than they have acknowledged and that they marched to war without dwelling on the potential perils. The half-dozen memos and option papers, written by top aides to British Prime Minister Tony Blair, buttress previous on-the-record accounts that portray Bush and his advisers as predisposed to oust Saddam Hussein when they took office - and determined to do it at all costs after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Blair is Bush's closest global partner, and the documents, startlingly frank at times, were never meant to become public." buffalonews.com

To: jmhollen who wrote (686276)	6/21/2005 10:17:47 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Still No Exact Figure for D-Day Dead Friday, June 04, 2004 PHOTO ESSAYS • 60th Anniversary of D-Day STORIES • D-Day Vets Return to Omaha Beach • Historians Investigating U.S. GI Actions Post D-Day • Schroeder to Honor War Dead in Normandy • France Boosts Security for D-Day Events • U.S. Dedicates Memorial to WWII Vets • Veterans Not Allowed to Parachute Into Normandy VIERVILLE-SUR-MER, France — The exploits of D-Day (search) have long been legend: the storming of the beaches, parachute drops into enemy territory. But 60 years later, the number of dead is still unclear. The chaos of battle and the vast scale of the assault thwarted attempts then -- and now -- to tally how many thousands were killed in the June 6, 1944, landings that sped Nazi (search) Germany's defeat. Bodies disintegrated under bombs and shells. Soldiers drowned and disappeared. Company clerks who tallied casualties were killed. Records were lost. "Landing crafts were hit," said Ivy Agee, an 81-year-old from Gordonsville, Tenn., who fought on Omaha Beach. "Bodies were flying everywhere. There was blood on the edge of the water, the beach was just running with pure blood." Historians say a definitive death toll will likely never be known. Even now, the Normandy (search) soil for which soldiers fought so bitterly offers up new bodies. "Now and then, construction work unearths bones and skeletons from soldiers. This happens fairly often," said Fritz Kirchmeier, a spokesman for the German organization that tends the 80,000 graves for German soldiers in Normandy. Casualty estimates for Allied forces vary, but range from 2,500 to more than 5,000 dead on D-Day. Adding to the confusion is that D-Day books and histories often count wounded, missing and troops taken prisoner. On its Web site, the D-Day Museum in Portsmouth, England, says an estimated 2,500 Allied troops died. The U.S. Army Center of Military History (search) in Washington, D.C., numbers 6,036 American casualties, including wounded and missing. The Heritage Foundation in Washington estimates 4,900 dead. "It's very difficult to get accurate figures. People get buried. Bodies disintegrate. Evidence of the deaths disappeared. People drowned," said John Keegan, author of "Six Armies in Normandy: From D-Day to the Liberation of Paris." He estimates 2,500 Americans and 3,000 other Allied troops died on D-Day. More than 19,000 civilians in Normandy also died in Allied bombing before and after D-Day to soften up German defenses. And Allied air forces lost nearly 12,000 men in April and May 1944 in operations ahead of the invasion, the D-Day Museum says. Even as the ranks of veterans who survived the assault and the push into Germany thin with time, work on tallying the dead continues. Carol Tuckwiller, director of research at the National D-Day Memorial Foundation (search) in Bedford, Va., has spent four years combing through government, military and cemetery records for names of Allied dead on D-Day. She hopes to have a figure by next year. "We feel like we're probably going to end up with a total of about 4,500 fatalities for both the Americans and Allied countries. Right now, we have about 4,200 names confirmed," she said. "Of course we realize we may never be 100 percent complete."