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To: TobagoJack who wrote (65235)	6/19/2005 10:16:46 PM
From: BubbaFred	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

The economy seems to be chugging along, and no sign of recession. Most don't pay attention to what's happening in Iraq. No mandatory draft, so who cares about anything yonder. During last Memorial Day weekend (May28-30), recruitments for Navy and Air Force were great, oversubscribed, and had to cut back. The Army was not as successful, only half of the goal. There is still plenty of patriotic bunch willing to do what the country's calls.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (65235)	6/19/2005 11:35:19 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 74559

Re: Speaking of which, what is the read on your shores amongst the general population on what is not happening in the desert sands? Here in Central Oregon, people are inert, distracted, complaisant and befuddled. While I was able to muster 350 people onto the streets to protest George Bush's wild crime scheme in the desert on October 26, 2002; last Friday a friend of mine attended the weekly peace vigil on one of our busier intersections. Six war protestors showed up. The American public are being beaten to a bloodied pulp by the fiction in our mendacious media, by the bills that never seem to quite get all paid and by the generally Orwellian nature of life in America today. Iraq may not ever be conquered by the Criminal Bush Mafia, but America has been completely castrated by the Butcher-of-the-Brazos. (A river in Texas, not far from George Bush's ersatz dude ranch and "Studly Do-right" farm.)

To: TobagoJack who wrote (65235)	6/20/2005 6:55:14 AM
From: KyrosL	Respond to of 74559

Here in Florida, Iraq is a far less important subject compared to how much their neighbors sold or are asking for their house.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (65235)	6/20/2005 12:45:59 PM
From: Slagle	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

TobagoJack Re: "public Support for Iraq" Here where I live every other car has a "support out troops" yellow ribbon and beyond that I think the public is not very concerned about the war. When the linkage is made between public support and foreign war is made a person naturally thinks about the Vietnam War, that being a case where a falling off of public support contributed to a rout. That won't happen this time, at least not in the same way or for the same reason. With Vietnam many years before the end the major media had turned totally against the war and network TV kept up a steady stream of "doom and gloom" about the war year after year. The war party had no means to tell their side of the story, other than maybe the editorial pages of rural newspapers. The anti-war party had all the TV news and the big city papers with which to present their story. And back then, that about all the media there was, at least to which the average person was exposed. Now you have talk radio which is very popular and is firmly in the possession of the war party. The war party has a majority eyeballs count on cable and satellite TV news programs. Then there is the internet. Those opposed to the war may still have an edge in broadcast TV but due to the presence of the OTHER news sources, they have to be much more careful to disguise their biases (the sacking of Dan Rather is an example). And there is the internet and blogosphere where the war party at least has parity. Then there is the peace and order situation. With Vietnam the anti-war party could have a riot or a disruptive "demonstration" any time they could raise a crowd. Years and years of this had begun to wear on the public. That won't happen this time. This time if you inconvenience and disrupt the public you will go to jail and pay for every penny of damage caused by the protest, both real and imaginary. There won't be any "peace riots" Slagle

To: TobagoJack who wrote (65235)	6/20/2005 7:50:06 PM
From: shades	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Holy Stock Shorts Batman, you didn't have stops in place JAY? I have been gone for awhile on a trip and come back and see you are still SHORT GOOG - NO JAY - I often wondered the past 2 months where you got stopped out at - you were told by so many people here that GOOG was going higher for so many different reasons - the redneck dumb money factor alone should have got you out - what was it einstien said about infinity and fools? I told you to come to the FLAIRS AI conference in clearwater - you would have quickly reversed your position - it is still not too late to go long!! Maurice U should be ashamed for letting Jay lose money like this. 90% of good investing is NOT losing money - hehe. It is OK Jay, just short more, it is bound to go down at some point.