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To: Don Earl who wrote (10967)6/20/2005 10:21:08 AM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 20039
 
Don > What we have is Iraqi patriots defending their women, children and homes, from an invader who has destroyed their homes, and murdered their women and children. No real man would do differently under similar circumstances.

Of course I agree with you. In fact, the US has no business in Iraq -- period. That's why I qualified the "bad" people with "as far as the US is concerned".

Please understand that my approach in the particular post was not a moralistic or legalistic one but a pragmatic one in terms of what has actually been achieved by the planning and plotting by US. And, IMO, the US has merely opened a Pandora's Box. If any good things are to flow from the bad -- two wars, many killed and injured, massive destruction, enormous hatred for the US, UK and Israel by the Muslims and indeed many people in the world -- I haven't seen it.

> It's ever so much more convenient to believe that people become "terrorists" because they "hate our freedom", rather than that they took up arms against us because so many of their daughters have come home raped and beaten by our troops.

One can hardly blame the US troops -- war turns men into animals, or whatever. They went into Iraq to kill, destroy and to promote hate. And they have. The soldiers are merely the implements of US government policy. Actually, I feel quite sorry for them because they are also victims -- physically and mentally. Like the Iraqis, their lives are also ruined. And for nothing -- except maybe an ego trip for those who run the US although I even doubt that.



To: Don Earl who wrote (10967)6/20/2005 6:50:05 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 20039
 
OT OT

Don,

I think you have a very good understanding of what an imperial occupation is like. Unfortunately, far too many Americans remain clueless about the true nature of brutal, illegal occupations.