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To: greenspirit who wrote (121278)	6/21/2005 3:33:21 PM
From: Oral Roberts	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793727

Pondering this article I'm inclined to join the close Gitmo crowd. It's obvious they will get much worse treatment in our regular prisons. Our military has better things to do then try and handle their Korans correctly also so this could solve 2 problems at once. I'm only half kidding.

To: greenspirit who wrote (121278)	6/21/2005 3:36:30 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793727

EXCELLENT post, Michael....raises some excellent questions, and our Congress for years hasn't even participated in the answers. Nor has our Judicial system. I think basically, for US prisoners at least, Americans haven't come to terms with what we expect prisons to accomplish. In my mind, there should be at least two basic types....One to try to rehab the person, so that hopefully they can go back out on the streets and live a good and product life with no more crime. The other type is for hard core individuals, the three strikes you're out types...who have murdered, some many times, and many people, or have committed other violent crimes. These folks are generally in a "hold for the rest of their life" prison. Again, I don't think we should be brutal with these individuals, but rather, only have the human basics for them. TV only as a privilege, books any time they are able to have free time, etc. More privileges allowed if earned. Places like Gitmo are rather like "luxury holding places"... I wonder if Saddam gets any better care than the Gitmo group?

To: greenspirit who wrote (121278)	6/21/2005 3:52:03 PM
From: alanrs	Respond to of 793727

Good post. Going back to an earlier conversation about legalizing drugs (and treating the problem instead of pretending to treat the problem), legalization would reduce crime and the prison population and allow the prisons to be more effectively controlled. A win-win situation all around. The resources that would be freed up to be put to a better use would be far greater than those needed to deal with any small (in my opinion) increase in general drug addiction. Gitmo is a safer place than an american prison. Never going to happen, of course. The "I'm against drugs" knee jerk reaction wins. And duh, most people are against drugs. It's that knee jerk reaction that allows someone to feel morally good about their position while insuring the problem (and a lot of other associated problems) will remain. Let me rephrase that. The problem is going to remain. It's part of human nature. It's the many, many associated problems that could be alleviated, instead of aggravated. Anyway, I try not to use the words would, should and could, so I'm dropping this and taking my grandson to see "Shark Boy and Lava Girl". The market stinks anyway. ARS Did anyone read the Reuters article about the shooting war going on right now in New Laredo, Mexico?