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To: Road Walker who wrote (238525)	6/22/2005 3:48:24 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572124

According to this poll, it appears most Americans agree with Elroy. ********************************************************* 20%: Gitmo Prisoners Treated Unfairly** Survey of 1,000 Adults June 20-21, 2005 Treatment of Prisoners at Guantanomo Bay Unfair 20% Better than they deserve 36% About Right 34% RasmussenReports.com June 22, 2005--A Rasmussen Reports survey found that 20% of Americans believe prisoners at Guantanomo Bay have been treated unfairly. Seven-out-of-ten adults believe the prisoners are being treated "better than they deserve" (36%) or "about right" (34%). The survey also found that just 14% agree with people who say that prisoner treatment at Guantanomo Bay is similar to Nazi tactics. Sixty-nine percent disagree with that comparison. This helps explain why Illinois Senator Dick Durbin apologized for making such a comparison. Partisan differences concerning prisoner treatment are huge. Only 7% of Republicans believe Guantanomo prisoners are treated unfairly. Thirty percent (30%) of Democrats hold that view along with 22% of those not affiliated with either major party. Forty-five percent (45%) of Republicans say the prisoners are treated better than they deserve. That view is shared by 28% of Democrats. continued......... rasmussenreports.com

To: Road Walker who wrote (238525)	6/23/2005 1:31:58 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572124

Don't bother to read all this... I have time. I'll point out to you how this article in NO WAY proves that the USA sends detainees to foreign countries so that they can be tortured for the benefit of the US. Two and a half years ago, American officials, suspecting Arar of being a terrorist, apprehended him in New York and sent him back to Syria, where he endured months of brutal interrogation, including torture. That says he was deported to Syria. I'll be the US has little idea of what happened to him after he arrived in Syria. Does your reading say something mine doesn't? During the flight, Arar said, he heard the pilots and crew identify themselves in radio communications as members of “the Special Removal Unit.” Do you believe this crap? Ever been on a jet? Unless the pilot is speaking over the intercom, you can't "overhear" the, talking or radio communications. Do you think they let this guy sit in the cockpit?? Arar, it turned out, had been sent to Syria on orders from the U.S. government, under a secretive program known as “extraordinary rendition.” This program had been devised as a means of extraditing terrorism suspects from one foreign state to another for interrogation and prosecution. Critics contend that the unstated purpose of such renditions is to subject the suspects to aggressive methods of persuasion that are illegal in America—including torture. Proof? Are we to believe this program exists simply because the author says so? Arar is suing the U.S. government for his mistreatment. Good for him. Perhaps he will produce some proof of your claims during his trial, and then we will have a reason to believe your claims, other that the "I said so" approach. Scott Horton, an expert on international law who helped prepare a report on renditions issued by N.Y.U. Law School and the New York City Bar Association, estimates that a hundred and fifty people have been rendered since 2001. Name them. Anyway, got bored. Sounds like a lot of mumbo jumbo conjecture to me.