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To: Ilaine who wrote (121551)6/22/2005 5:38:48 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793834
 
My impression is that you're using me as a convenient target for rhetorical questions, and that you think empathy is for wimps.

CB, I'm sorry if my posts are coming across that way. You know how I get going on these sorts of things at times and tend to go overboard. I'll make an effort to throttle back.

The empathy question got me thinking though, and here is the way I would answer it... My empathy is toward the morale of military members who have to live in Cuba and watch a bunch of scum every day of their life. My empathy is with the leadership that runs the Gitmo facility (and other military prison facilities), and the thankless job they are doing, while battling the rigors of training, duty watch rotation, heat, and personnel turnover, all while critical politicians spout vitriolic rhetoric at them. My empathy is with people who are in prison in the United States for sometimes minor crimes and who are being raped. I think it's wrong and I think we could prevent a large degree of it if we were focused on it 1/10 the degree we are focused on military prisons.

I can empathize with wanting to treat every prisoner humanely. I just don't see the gross inhumanity in these unsubstantiated charges. I can also empathize with the sensitive nature people have after what happened at Abu Ghraib. It just strikes me that we are leaping before looking. And we are far too quick to not believe, not trust, and not treat respectfully the men and women in uniform who work there.



To: Ilaine who wrote (121551)6/22/2005 5:47:38 PM
From: Ish  Respond to of 793834
 
<<With respect to prison rapes -- I do know that prison assaults are hard to prosecute because witnesses are afraid of retaliation.>>

Our neighbors nephew was a big sadistic kid but had girlish features and boy tits. The feds caught him stealing his grandmother's SS check. The feds TOLD the judge what the sentence would be and he went to Pontiac which is a tough prison for two years. Kid came back as a momma's boy. Complete change.