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To: Elroy who wrote (238612)6/23/2005 4:47:39 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 1584578
 
Elroy,

Re: then Saddam probably would not have let the inspectors back in at all

Be careful. You appear to have fallen victim to one of George Bush's cheap tricks. Bush and the craven media, (see: tinyurl.com ) have lied to the American public about the level of Saddam's cooperation with UN inspections. In fact, Hans Blix and Mohammed al Bareidi both have independently stated that it was the U.S. and UK who were interfering with the inspections, and not the Iraqis.

Here's a typical report from that period:

wndu.com

This report mentions the 12,000 page report that the Iraqis sent to the UN in response to a request concerning WMDs and their production inside Iraq. As soon as the document was delivered to the UN, it was immediately stolen by the U.S. Ambassodor and his henchmen. Under the pretext that there weren't fast enough copy machines in New York for the distribution to UN Security Council members, the U.S. blatantly censored the 12,000 pages and reduced it to 4,000 pages in order to remove the material that implicated the U.S. in providing material and technical expertise in the development of Iraq's WMD programs.

This is your government stealing UN documents and then lying to the world about what it had done. This is shameful, criminal behavior.

Now, if you want to learn about what was in the 8,000 pages that the Bush Crime Family did not want anyone to see, I recommend a terrific book called "SPIDER'S WEB: The Secret History of how the U.S armed Saddam's Iraq" by ALAN FRIEDMAN

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This is some sick shit Sigmund.

Here's a review of this book that sums up the revulsion that is the appropriate response to a government that is acting as a criminal enterprise. The Reagan-Bush government is the one that we ought to be questioning:

Dr. Frankenstein Creates a Monster; the U.S. Arms Saddam, March 13, 2001
Reviewer: Philip Greenspan (Spring Valley, New York United States) - See all my reviews
An appropriate metaphor. But in defense of Dr. Frankenstein - he was attempting to advance science and did not know that his experiment would produce the abominable creature that resulted. When the U.S. government clandestinely - with junior partners Briton and Italy and bit players, France, Germany, and Japan - provided Saddam Hussein with sophisticated military high tech weapons and biological and chemical warfare items it was well aware of what a despicable tyrant he was.

"Spider's Web" exposes a deplorable sub rosa world that was created in order to supply Saddam Hussein armaments during the Iran-Iraq war. Presidents Reagan and Bush pursued policies in direct contravention of existing law and of their own public statements.

It was no secret that Saddam was a despicable character, who--among innumerable criminal acts--was not averse to murdering his own people--the Kurds, with poison gas.

War had erupted between Iran and the Iraq, two countries both considered enemies of the US. Iran having overthrown the Shah and in the process humiliated the U.S. was judged to be the greater evil. Accordingly-while contending that it was neutral-the U.S. tilted to Iraq and Saddam. William Casey, head of the CIA at the time, was the strongest proponent of assistance to Saddam. He did not just tilt but in the vernacular "gave away the store".

In Europe, Margaret Thatcher was a strong advocate for strengthening Iraq, as was the Italian government. Other governments, namely France, Germany and Japan, did not want to miss out on good commercial possibilities and joined in. Some also sold to the Iranians. All except the U.S. and England dropped out when Iraq did not pay its bills.

Many in the White House and in the State, Treasury, Defense, Commerce, and Agriculture Departments were shocked and firmly opposed to this policy. But in both the Reagan and Bush administrations a green light for Saddam's purchases permitted him to create a formidable high-tech military machine. Sales of almost any items were permitted including components for atomic, biological, and chemical weapons. There were even instances where the CIA would purchase Russian equipment in the Eastern European black market to service his existing Russian equipment!

All of these activities were in direct violation of existing laws and regulations relating to the transfer of military equipment. Various subterfuges were developed such as sales to Saudi Arabia and Jordan. These countries then transferred what they received to Iraq. To pay for this equipment Iraq obtained loans guaranteed by the federal government. What was unique about the loans is that they were arranged by the Agriculture Department. Iraq was buying American food, then reselling it at a profit, and using the proceeds to purchase armaments.

Numerous ordinary individuals who happened to be in the right place at the right time (or perhaps in the wrong place at the right time) were drawn into the periphery of this nefarious operation. A salesman who spoke Arabic and worked for a supplier; a trucker who hauled British supplies to Europe and the Middle East; a banker at an Atlanta bank that processed all the loans. Each profited from the arrangements but all eventually grew wary of the operation and eventually suffered for their involvement.

President Bush and James Baker were actively pushing their pro-Iraq policy, in the summer of 1989, when these undercover operations began to unravel. Two employees at the Atlanta bank reported some of the suspicious activities that had occurred there prompting the U.S. attorney in Atlanta to investigate.

When Saddam invaded Kuwait the policy was suddenly reversed. Saddam became "Hitler"; and the White House now embarked upon a cover up-but too late-the clandestine operations were leaking out.

Henry Gonzalez, head of the House Banking Committee, pressed for public hearings. The Justice Department objected-the Atlanta investigation would be jeopardized-sensitive national security concerns. The Commerce Department's top export official was fired when he appeared before the committee and told the truth.

An independent counsel friendly to the administration was hired whose findings provided a whitewash of the affair. But loose ends still remained. The government tried to resolve the Atlanta case by making the bank manager the fall guy for the entire operation. So many peculiarities had occurred in the pretrial and Congressional hearings that Judge Marvin Shoob in an extraordinary ruling blasted the government's handling of the case.

The book provides ample notes of sources to support the statements. In addition there are three appendices of actual relevant documents.

What conclusions can we draw. Two presidents knowingly violated their oath of office. They defied critically important laws dealing with the national defense of the country. They armed, with the most sophisticated weapons, a rogue state, a potential enemy, a country that did in fact become an enemy and has been embargoed in order to remove those armaments.

It is unfortunate that a scandal of such monumental proportions did not get proper news coverage. The cover up was not 100 per cent effective. But the news media which continually exploits an O. J., a Princess Diana, or an Elian story for days on end on the front page or as the lead item on television and radio gives this major scandal scant coverage.

O where o where has our news media gone, o where o where can it be!