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To: SiouxPal who wrote (37112)	6/24/2005 12:45:32 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

You know, you were let in to get the fight with RCG off Rat's Nest. That's not what you're doing. I think it's time you left. He can ban you if he wants.

To: SiouxPal who wrote (37112)	6/24/2005 3:48:15 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 90947

It's bad enough to have libs bad mouthing the GWOT with their lies, slander & deceit. But this takes the cake. Guess Who's Paying Zarqawi? By Captain Ed on War on Terror Captain's Quarters According to the US News and World Report, Islamist terrorist groups in Iraq not only get support and funding from dispossessed Saddamites and disgruntled Syrians, but also have a stream of donations coming from Europe itself. David Kaplan discovers that "liberal" Europe has a network of donors stuffing spare euros into Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's pockets: <<< Who's funding the insurgents in Iraq? The list of suspects is long: ex-Baathists, foreign jihadists, and angry Sunnis, to name a few. Now add to that roster hard-core Euroleftists. Turns out that far-left groups in western Europe are carrying on a campaign dubbed Ten Euros for the Resistance, offering aid and comfort to the car bombers, kidnappers, and snipers trying to destabilize the fledgling Iraq government. In the words of one Italian website, Iraq Libero (Free Iraq), the funds are meant for those fighting the occupanti imperialisti. The groups are an odd collection, made up largely of Marxists and Maoists, sprinkled with an array of Arab emigres and aging, old-school fascists, according to Lorenzo Vidino, an analyst on European terrorism based at The Investigative Project in Washington, D.C. "It's the old anticapitalist, anti-U.S., anti-Israel crowd," says Vidino, who has been to their gatherings, where he saw activists from Austria, Denmark, Germany, and Italy. "The glue that binds them together is anti-Americanism." The groups are working on an October conference to further support "the Iraqi Resistance." A key goal is to expand backing for the insurgents from the fringe left to the broader antiwar and antiglobalization movements. >>> Given the rhetoric we've seen coming from rallies sponsored by International ANSWER and other such groups, expanding the reach of the Euro-Islamist Bund doesn't seem far-fetched. Most of them preach outright support of the so-called "resistance", even after the Iraqis themselves elected a government at great personal risk that not only supports the foreign troops, but has traveled to Washington to keep in place. For these people, elected representatives like Ibrahim al-Jaafari amount to nothing but puppets for Western capitalists, while Zarqawi and his bloodthirsty, head-chopping gangs of lunatics represent the real Iraqis. At least, they represent the real Iraqis still left after the Islamofascists kill as many as they can until they grab power. Principled opposition to war has its place, although I disagree with it. This is different -- it's aiding and abetting mass murderers. (h/t: CQ reader Joe Goat) captainsquartersblog.com usnews.com antiimperialista.com iraqlibero.at Ö¿Ö

To: SiouxPal who wrote (37112)	6/24/2005 4:05:00 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Why should I take anything Krugman says seriously? I mean he is so far removed from facts & reality that even the New York Times public editor, Daniel Okrent said the following about Krugman..... "Op-Ed columnist Paul Krugman has the disturbing habit of shaping, slicing and selectively citing numbers in a fashion that pleases his acolytes but leaves him open to substantive assaults." *** "This was the first he heard from me on these specific issues partly because I learned early on in this job that Prof. Krugman would likely be more willing to contribute to the Frist for President campaign than to acknowledge the possibility of error. When he says he agreed "reluctantly" to one correction, he gives new meaning to the word "reluctantly"; I can't come up with an adverb sufficient to encompass his general attitude toward substantive criticism. But I laid off for so long because I also believe that columnists are entitled by their mandate to engage in the unfair use of statistics, the misleading representation of opposing positions, and the conscious withholding of contrary data. But because they're entitled doesn't mean I or you have to like it, or think it's good for the newspaper. * * * Believe me -- I could go on, as could a number of readers more sophisticated about economic matters than I am. (Among these are several who, like me, generally align themselves politically with Prof. Krugman, but feel he does himself and his cause no good when he heeds the roaring approval of his acolytes and dismisses his critics as ideologically motivated.) But I don't want to engage in an extended debate any more than Prof. Krugman says he does. If he replies to this statement, as I imagine he will, I'll let him have what he always insists on keeping for himself: the last word. I hate to do this to a decent man like my successor, Barney Calame, but I'm hereby turning the Krugman beat over to him." Message 21352633 Message 21375648