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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (65536)	6/26/2005 4:33:40 PM
From: Slagle	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Maurice Re: "arty-farty types" That is really a good one. Back in my long ago college days I would take an "R&R" vacation every so often and vist some of my several cousins lounging away at different liberal arts colleges. It was all girls, partytime and no books. That was the thing that really got me; every engineering undergrad had a dorm room that reeked of books and hard work. Cousins and friends had dorm rooms that looked like they had never seen books or hard work. Those places were really big breeding grounds for lefties. Don't personally know any lefties produced by engineering schools, but I guess there are some. Slagle

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (65536)	6/27/2005 10:37:30 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Of course the first engineers knew how to knap flint msu.edu You can probably do that, provided you can work out which stone is flint. That is exactly what I mean. How many hours does it take to teach someone to knap flint? Anybody can do it. You don't need any mathematics. You don't need any history. You don't have to know how to read. The beauty of a 777 swooping over with contrails and 300 people on board makes any art 'installation' look like a work of monkey, not work of art. It takes about a dozen people to conceptualize and put it all together. After that it is all monkey work. Thousands and thousands of highly paid people doing HR, lawyer, order processing, inventory control, AP, payroll, assembly, advertising, sales, painting logos, etc. You don't get my drift. The people that do the smart engineering work are few and far in between. I am not denigrating their work or importance. Everybody else does monkey work - including the great majority of engineering school graduates.