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To: Keith Feral who wrote (164814)	6/27/2005 12:48:19 AM
From: exdaytrader76	Respond to of 281500

There is religious intolerance all over the world. I don't see how Iraq under Saddam was any worse than many other places. Tariq Aziz is a Christian. en.wikipedia.org and there are about 700,000 other Christians in Iraq. Did we make their life better - the ones we didn't kill - by invading their country and turning it into a perpetual war zone?

To: Keith Feral who wrote (164814)	6/27/2005 1:27:24 AM
From: geode00	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Where in the world do you get the idea that Bush is out to snuff out religious intolerance in the ME? Of course Saudi Arabia is repressive. It's a combination of monarchy and the strictest fundamentalist sect. The Saudis call themselves a theocracy. This is not a good feeding ground for liberal democracy. Why do you think George feels so comfortable with Bandar? He's trying to do the same thing in the US of A: 1. autocracy, oligarchy, aristocracy whatever you want to call it codified by the power of government to tax and spend...this is George's self-proclaimed BASE. 2. Evangelical christocracy that dictates how people live, how they marry, how they have children...this is George's sledgehammer voting bloc. How is this any different from the dictatorship+fundamentalism of Saudi Arabia? We're a few centuries ahead but the evangelical christocrats are trying to turn us back 80 years so we're not THAT far ahead. The problem with terrorism is that IT WORKS. OBL's worked spectacularly because the US of A reacted very badly to 911. He's still running around somewhere while we're stuck occupying a muslim country for the next decade. Governments keep saying that 'we don't negotiate with terrorists' and then we NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS. Worse, we give terrorists what they want directly or indirectly. These kinds of results guarantee that terrorism will be on the rise. It's not BECAUSE Iraq is an oil rich country, it may be because it is the last REMAINING oil rich country. If it's true that we're at peak oil AND Saudi Arabia is lying about the size and quality of its reserves, Iraq may be the last remaining low-hanging oily fruit. We may not know the truth about this but Bush most assuredly does. I'll ask again: If the US Military says a significant percentage of suiciders are SAUDIS, then why doesn't George of Arabia ask his uncle Sauds to close their borders and not let them out?