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To: Elroy who wrote (238929)	6/27/2005 8:22:50 AM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572775

"liberal logic"

To: Elroy who wrote (238929)	6/27/2005 8:25:51 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1572775

Which Muslim countries allow open prostitution? Iran certainly doesn't. Even your average person can't show any ankle. I really, really doubt Saudia Arabia does - women have male guardians. In fact, it's known some Saudia Arabian guys fly to Israel for prostitution - they stay at a hotel by the one that hightech people stay at. Very strange people in some of those hotel parking lots - a hightech female has to be careful - and it's not like corporations give women a brochure telling you what to look out for where. There's even a place in Israel where tons of men will drive around a circle to pick up prostitutes that come up to their cars. Then you see them driving off, one after the next. It's not a good place to drive to by mistake!!! Turkey does - but it's been westernized. Kuwait has its 'dancers' so maybe you mean Kuwait - they get $5B per year from USA, so what do you expect. Iraq did have it before the war, I will agree with you. But it's a lot worse, after all the destruction and poverty. In the USA, it's bad here too. It's unfortunately popular for some bad entrepreneurs (1%) to buy escorts - some feel like they are showing off their money by being able to afford an escort. I attended a corporate communications event, where one guy flew into Silicon Valley and picked up an escort for the event. It was really bad. I gave him a really nasty look, his face turned red with anger (not embarrassment), and he immediately left the party with his escort (who looked pretty scared of him). That's the abbreviated version of the story. The full version was rather scary and one of the rarest times I considered getting out of hightech due to safety reasons. I wish Silicon Valley police would crack down on it - it's gotten to be so popular that they even have a beer commercial now talking about yachts and escorts, implying it's the cool thing-to-do. Silicon Valley police here won't go after the super rich entrepreneurs - they are "untouchable" - such as the entrepreneur that orders "waves of Japanese escorts" onto his yacht. He's an idiot that thinks other women don't know, but it's actually a small world and one of the Japanese escorts informed one of the female VPs at his company. Such an environment can really make it difficult sometimes for women in hightech. I've had some rather scary situations due to this environment that can negatively impact women executives when they are traveling alone and attending events. And it's not like I can avoid it - you have to conduct business so you have to be there. I had one business meeting where this one sleazy ceo (a Morgan Stanley IPO favorite, no less) who actually took his chair and placed it under the door knob of his office to prevent anyone from entering, then he blocks the door to prevent me from leaving, and his office was so far from everyone else and was sound proof. It was one of several scary situations in hightech, and not even the worst. I told the chairman of his board though, he's no longer in hightech but it took a painfully long time before he was pushed out. But in the end, the bad guys do get pushed out. Overseas is actually a lot worse than America in this regards. In fact, American guys complain to me that they are under tremendous pressure to visit prostitutes with overseas executives. Some aren't even asked about it - they are dragged to these bar-like places for entertainment they don't even know what they are. And this is by large 'respectable' overseas companies too. Go figure. If they don't go, it puts a lot of pressure on the business relationships. Of course they don't do that, so they end up working harder than some guy that does go. The estimates are 20% to 30% of all male hightech executives have seen prostitutes overseas. The higher you go up the ladder, the higher the pressure is placed to do this if you are a male. At least 1% of founders have regular escorts. At least this guy married his escort: Cofounder of Ask Jeeves (David Warthen) married a prostitute. Her website was still up too: touchofbrazil.net According to the Mercury News: Her rates for being an escort? $1,250 to $1,300 for two hours, $2,200 for four hours, $3,000 for six hours, $5,000 for overnight, and $15,000 for three days. An undercover IRS agent found Internet postings of 82 men who claimed to have had sex with Schultz for cash. I really, really wish Silicon Valley police would go after the people that purchase such services. But what can one expect with a male-dominated police force? I absolutely guarantee they will never ever arrest the super rich entrepreneur that has a fetish for Japenese escorts on yachts. It makes you lose your faith sometimes in humankind. How sometimes I wish male leaders took action against this type of stuff. The male executives and founders that engage in this are very predatorial - very dangerous and very unsafe for women in hightech. There aren't many of them, but at 1% that's quite a lot of them. One out of every 100 business meeting you run into something weird. It can get dicey sometimes. The higher up you go, the harder and scarier the situation is, because of the power and predatorial nature. Regards, Amy J