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To: tsigprofit who wrote (17862)6/27/2005 1:32:28 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
Re: Ray, haven't we already violated international law though by starting an "illegal war" as Kofi Annan described it?

Kofi Annan is only one of thousands of expert observers who have concluded that America is in violation of international law.

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Re: Is it any more immoral to extract the oil to pay for it, than to start the war in the first place?

I'm not really too sure where this sort of sophistry gets us. My point is that America is clearly guilty of naked aggression. Stealing the oil to pay for it is hardly justifiable under any circumstances.

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Re: At least one option has to do with taking of material wealth - vs. killing tens of thousands of innocents....

I'm certain that was Bush's initial intention. Bush clearly did not count on the Resistance organizing itself as ferociously as it has.

Bush is a thief. That has always been the goal of the invasion.
Here's one of the most cogent and informative articles I've seen on the insane scheming that is involved in the neocon fantasy of conquest and the creation of a capitalist paradise in Iraq:

harpers.org

As Naomi Klein points out, theft didn't quite work as easily as Paul Bremer had hoped it would, and it won't get any easier now.

And let's be perfectly clear about this, what you are proposing is to steal Iraq's oil in order to pay for a criminal assault on that nation. No sane individual outside the borders of the U.S. would see this any other way, and would find such a proposal morally bankrupt.



To: tsigprofit who wrote (17862)6/27/2005 5:45:36 PM
From: xcr600  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
Saw Bill Maher in Minneapolis last night. Hilarious. If you've never seen his stuff you'd love it.