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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (687505)	6/27/2005 11:10:45 AM
From: JDN	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

The Democrats have become the Party of Obstructionism, the Party of FLAG BURNING, the party of 10 COMMANDMENT DESTRUCTION, how in GODS NAME can anyone except the decrepit Big Inner City types vote for them? I dont know, but I bet the do. jdn

To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (687505)	6/27/2005 12:42:59 PM
From: JBTFD	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

You should source that so people don't get the impression that you wrote it. The basic thing wrong with his analysis is that most people have a basic sense of justice. They don't want to see the environment of their grandchildren destroyed because some portion of the population thinks that the end is near so why care about the environment when we will all be in heaven. They don't like it when their leaders lie to them. They don't like it when they see the rich get more and more wealthy at the expense of everyone else. They don't like it when they see their leaders have sold their sovereignty out to unelected free trade officials in the name of a better economy. They don't like it when they see runaway spending that will be up to their children's children to repay. The author of that is right that the left has done a poor job of enunciating their platform, but that doesn't mean that the people in general like what the republican party is doing to this country.

To: Hope Praytochange who wrote (687505)	6/27/2005 1:40:25 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

ATTENTION THREAD MEMBERS! Here is a draft of a letter of support for Sioux Pal's continued suspension, to be sent to SI Admin today. Please, right away from you: -- any suggestions for further points to be made -- your support in the form of inclusion of your posting name ======================================================== Dear SI Admin, The undersigned write to request that you continie to suspend posting privileges immediately for the Moderator of the thread "Sioux Nation" for these reasons: -- as moderator, he can perform his functions while banned. He H has alloowed free participation to anyone for very hort periods onlt and then only under pressure. He has banned for totally arbitrary and capricious reasons. He favors personal abuse of others by his favorites.. In our view, those are the people that sully the threads on SI, and as proof of that we suggest that you go to the investment threads on Yahoo. Probably looking at any thread for 10 posts should convince you on this point. -- very often scatalogical language is used by such people as part of their personal abuse and invective. This has been tolerated by Sioux Pal when directed against his personal enemies, regardless of the otherwise meritorious nature of the contributions his enemies have to make. The use of the word "f*ck" these days remains unnaceptable in intelligent and informed company, but not in his crowd. Among those you will find good discussions of the use of the word such as: Those who cannot discuss politics without vulgarity should perhapd take their dirty mouths to Yahoo. WE understand that television often goes for the least common denominator. We were unaware we were. If so, inform us. We need another platform. WHile this may be an ADULT environment, adults with worthwhile matters to discuss need no such language. "laura bush" aka bonnuss_in_austin was terminated for such language. SiouxPal should also ne. "In short, we believe that cutting the posting privileges of Sioux Pal and leaving a moderated thread unmoderated is unjustified, unnecessary and unwise." The above sentence is nonsense, as you know, and illustrates the ignorance of its composer. The one thing I would agree with is updating TOU to reflect actual practice. "Understand that there is a fine line between the application of your "property rights" as SI Admin and the "freedom of speech" rights granted in the U.S. Constitution and amendments." THe above sentence is again nonsense. THe First Amendment is a limitation on the governments, not SI. "So I think you would agree that your censoring rights are considerably less than those of a Minister over the activity within his/her Church or a School Teacher over the activity in his/her classroom. And likely less than those applied to broadcast over the public air waves." More nonsense. A minister can decide acceptable speech in his church. A teacher is a public employee acting for the gov't and as such is bound by its rules. "Let's simply find an adult and non-repressive answer to the so-called problem and restore our Moderator forthwith." THeir moderator can moderate while suspended. aPut SiouxPal back in his cell. Sincerely, (SI members) Lazarus Long YOUR NAME HERE Feel free to distribute to other threads.