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To: Zakrosian who wrote (122315)	6/27/2005 3:17:23 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 793955

"How do you intelligently combat an enemy who's perfectly happy to blow himself up as long as he takes some innocents with him?" Thats why i said i was confused and i am not afraid to admit that in public? But an 18 month timetable with the current casualty rate and an end date solidifies public support for the war for us waverers and the confusees like me. I dont want the US to become to Sunni Iraq as Israel is to the WB--the hated occupier and enemy and perceived cause of all the bloodshed. It is not a fair attribution as it is not for israel either but it is one that unfortunately will stick. I think a timetable gives the iraqi regime some credibility. They can demand it from us and look good in PR terms in iraq. And for american parents they can stop fearing the "D" word for their kids. And troops will be coming home on or about Election Day 06 which may turn out better for the Republicans than dems because it will: a. might be successful OR b. occur before it might fail and thus not effect republicans negatively in 2006.

To: Zakrosian who wrote (122315)	6/27/2005 4:31:24 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 793955

The battle to win for civilization must at some point be fought on intellectual grounds. Now that the Iraqi government has the foundation for a working order. Iraqis can engage one another in such discourse. The battle over extremism is never moved beyond vengeful pride. Extremism involves loyalty to tribe, religion, race, national origin, extreme liberal chaos, extreme oppressive totalitarianism, etc. It is the false sense of devotion to a heritage within a group that tends to corrupt one to the extreme. The interesting aspect of this is that the extremist is always willing to champion the label that identifies him, even unto death, and even to the sacrifice of the principles underlying such a label. We must move the locus of fidelity to one of intelligent and principled debate.