To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (688016 ) 6/28/2005 3:46:09 PM From: bentway Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 My opinion is we should get out NOW! Yesterday would have been even better. Best would have been never to have gone.Who's Wrong on Iraq? Do you think the strategists and plotters at the Republicans HQ are getting nervous about the war in Iraq? This morning the research shop at the Republican National Committee sent out an email headlined "Democrats Still Wrong on Iraq." The GOPers chided certain Democrats for urging that a timetable for withdrawal be set, and, pointing to selective poll results, they argued that the public still backs the war and believes that "liberating" Iraq has made the United States safer. If so, why did the White House decide it was necessary for Bush to make a major speech to rally support for the war? As for pulling out of Iraq, one can argue about the wisdom of withdrawal. I find the case increasingly compelling. Recently I was talking to Ivo Daalder, a Brookings Institution national security expert who advised Howard Dean during the last presidential campaign, and he said that the way to think about the current predicament is this: the choice is 1968 or 1974. He was referring to Vietnam. Of course, the Vietnam analogy is rather limited. The insurgents in Iraq, for one, are not equivalent to the nationalist, popular-supported Viet Cong. But what Daalder meant was that if the United States had pulled out of Vietnam in 1968 as opposed to 1974, the end-result would have been the same with one notable exception: 25,000 or so Americans and many more Vietnamese would have still been alive. Those six years of fighting were for naught, the sacrifice meaningless. If the same is to ensue in Iraq, then pulling out sooner than later not only makes sense but is morally necessary. Now, back to the GOP's email. Let's put aside who's right or wrong on withdrawal, which I concede is a tricky question. We do know who has the worse record on being right or wrong about Iraq.* Who claimed there were stockpiles of WMDs in Iraq? * Who said there was a revived nuclear weapons program in Iraq? * Who said the intelligence left "no doubt" that Iraq posed a direct WMD threat to the United States? * Who said Iraq had mobile biological weapons labs? * Who said "we found the weapons of mass destruction"? * Who said "we know" where the WMDs are in Iraq? * Who said Saddam Hussein was "dealing with" al Qaeda? * Who said the United States would be greeted as liberators? * Who said the reconstruction of Iraq would not burden US taxpayers and that it could be self-financed via Iraqi oil revenues? * Who said that it would not require hundreds of thousands of US troops to secure Iraq after an invasion? * Who said--after the invasion--that there was no insurgency in Iraq? * Who said the post-invasion looting was no big deal? * Who said that 140,000 Iraqi security forces were trained--when the more accurate number was probably less than one-tenth of that? * Who said the insurgency was in its "last throes" when military commanders said it could take years to quash the insurgency? Get my drift? (And that's only a partial list I batted out while watching Jeff Greenfield on CNN say that Bush's political troubles due to the war are not yet as bad as the difficulty Bill Clinton hit with Monica Lewinsky.) Bush and his lieutenants have been wrong on most of the big issues. Worse, they failed to plan adequately for the post-invasion period. They sent troops to war before there was sufficient amounts of body armor and armored vehicles available. They pissed away reconstruction money in a haphazard process without effective controls. (Halliburton says, thank you.) They claimed the transfer of sovereignty, the apprehension of Saddam Hussein, and the election in Iraq would demoralize and weaken the insurgents. None of these events did so. They have routinely ignored (in public) the periodic intelligence assessments that report Iraq has become a rather effective training ground for anti-American jihadists. And now all Bush has to say about his plan for Iraq is that he will stay the course and succeed. How inspiring. Yet the Democrats are wrong, according to the GOP, because they supposedly are misreading the polls about Americans' support (or lack thereof) for Bush's misadventure in Iraq? Please. When the Dems screw up as much as the Bush gang and land the United States in a war that seems to have no end in near sight, then Republicans can slap them around. What never ceases to amaze me--as I've noted before--is how shameless the GOPers can be. Review that list above. If you had been wrong that much, wouldn't you feel like crawling under a rock--or at least sending yourself to your room? But these guys (and gals) declare victory and march on.Which brings me to another argument for withdrawal. If the war is in the hands of people who cannot admit error and who cannot acknowledge reality (paging, Mr. Cheney), then the best course of action might be to stop. Just stop. And then worry about how to deal with whatever unpleasant or threatening consequences come to pass. Does it make sense to allow a reckless driver to stay behind the wheel, even if you're at one damn unpleasant destination? But I am sure Bush will address all my concerns in his speech tonight, a speech that--remember--has nothing to do with slipping support for the war. ****** Programming note. I am scheduled to appear on NPR's All Things Considered after the Bush speech--that is, if the producers decide the speech was meaty enough to warrant a discussion between me and a conservative. I'm not holding my breath. Posted by David Corn at 12:37 PM | Comments (24)