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To: Thomas M. who wrote (8595)	6/29/2005 8:30:55 AM
From: Machaon	Respond to of 22250

Thomas, you said: "So, according to you, the Arabs are kicking the Jews' azzes." This isn't rocket science, Thomas. There are about 300 million Arabs and only about 6 million Jews in the Middle East. Christians and Jews, living within the Arab countries, were subjected to harsh persecution, racism, brutality and religious intolerance by the backward, violent Arabs. So, in a way, you are correct. The Arabs showed the world that they could use their greater numbers to persecute, torture and murder minorities within their countries. Persecution of minorities is probably something that you are good at also. Christians and Jews have fled the Middle East, especially away from Arab controlled areas. Jews lost all of the possessions and land to the brutal, backward Arabs. But...... after Jews fled from the savage Arab countries, Jews were able to establish their own state where Jews could protect themselves from hostile Arabs. Arabs were not satisfied with stealing ALL of the Jews property and possessions. Arabs wanted it all, so Arabs began attacking the Jews in the tiny land of Israel. Arabs wanted to wipe out ALL Jews and Christians in the tiny land of Israel, and then be able to steal the rest of Jewish and Christian possessions. Through FIVE Arab wars against the small number of Jews, the Jews were able to defeat the Arabs each time. If you feel that it is a great victory for the majority to victimize a minority, then your ethics and morals are just as corrupted as the Arabs.

To: Thomas M. who wrote (8595)	6/29/2005 4:48:58 PM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

So, how do you feel about minorities, Thomas? There are 300 million Arabs and only 6 million Jews in the Middle East. The Arabs have most of the land, through stealing, terrorism and murder. Do you feel that the majority Arabs should be able to persecute the minority Jews just because the Arabs are in the majority? Do you feel that it is OK for the world to bend over all the time and kiss Arab arse, and excuse the horrible, brutal Arab behavior just because Arabs have a lot of oil?

To: Thomas M. who wrote (8595)	6/30/2005 11:11:51 AM
From: Elmer Flugum	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 22250

Free speech, Dershowitz style: Giving Chutzpah New Meaning thenation.com "What do you do when somebody wants to publish a book that says you're completely wrong? If you're Alan Dershowitz, the prominent Harvard law professor, and the book is Norman Finkelstein's Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History, you write the governor of California and suggest that he intervene with the publisher--because the publisher is the University of California Press, which conceivably might be subject to the power of the governor. Schwarzenegger, showing unusual wisdom, declined to act. The governor's legal affairs secretary wrote Dershowitz, "You have asked for the Governor's assistance in preventing the publication of this book," but "he is not inclined to otherwise exert influence in this case because of the clear, academic freedom issue it presents." In a phone interview Dershowitz denied writing to the Governor, declaring, "My letter to the Governor doesn't exist." But when pressed on the issue, he said, "It was not a letter. It was a polite note." Old-timers in publishing said they'd never heard of another case where somebody tried to get a governor to intervene in the publication of a book. "I think it's a first," said Andre Schiffrin, managing director at Pantheon Books for twenty-eight years and then founder and director of the New Press. Lynne Withey, director of the University of California Press, where she has been for nineteen years, said, "I've never heard of such a case in California." But if you're Alan Dershowitz, you don't stop when the governor declines. You try to get the president of the University of California to intervene with the press. You get a prominent law firm to send threatening letters to the counsel to the university regents, to the university provost, to seventeen directors of the press and to nineteen members of the press's faculty editorial committee. A typical letter, from Dershowitz's attorney Rory Millson of Cravath, Swaine & Moore, describes "the press's decision to publish this book" as "wholly illegitimate" and "part of a conspiracy to defame" Dershowitz. It concludes, "The only way to extricate yourself is immediately to terminate all professional contact with this full-time malicious defamer." Dershowitz's own letter to members of the faculty editorial committee calls on them to "reconsider your decision" to recommend publication of the book. Why would a prominent First Amendment advocate take such an action? Dershowitz told Publishers Weekly that "my goal has never been to stop publication of this book." He told me in an e-mail, "I want Finkelstein's book to be published, so that it can be demolished in the court of public opinion." He told Publishers Weekly his only purpose in writing the people at the University of California Press was "to eliminate as many of the demonstrable falsehoods as possible" from the book before it was published. Everyone knows who Alan Dershowitz is--the famed Harvard professor, part of the O.J. Simpson defense team, author of the number-one bestseller Chutzpah, portrayed by Ron Silver in the film Reversal of Fortune, about his successful defense of accused wife-murderer Klaus von Bülow. He's also one of the most outspoken defenders of Israel, especially in his 2003 book The Case for Israel; it reached number twelve on the New York Times bestseller list. That's the book Finkelstein challenges in Beyond Chutzpah."