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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Bill who wrote (34996)6/29/2005 4:52:42 PM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
lol

AS-swipe never lets a good pinhead fantasy get in the way of reality....

It seems obvious to me that reason we have closure on SH's WMD or lack thereof is BECAUSE GWB acted.....

J.



To: Bill who wrote (34996)6/29/2005 5:35:20 PM
From: Smiling Bob  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Look and your post long and hard
AS says Clinton removed the WMD with bombs and Hillary simply says Bush's fabricated intelligence says Saddam worked to rebuild. Bush's intent all along was to scare Americans into attacking.
dad took flak from around the world for pulling out too soon.
How hard is it to put 2 and 2 together?
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George Bush Senior SHOULD have got rid of Saddam Hussein in 1991. Its 13 years too late now and hundreds of thousands of people have died for his stupidity.

When Bush Sr. pulled out of Iraq it was for the same reason America pulled out of Vietnam.

There would have been no argument about whether Saddam had "weapons of mass destruction" back then. He did have them, and he used them on Iraqis who had helped the Americans in the Gulf War.

You see, the Americans made a deal with a large number of Iraqis that they would help them overthrow Saddam after the Gulf War was over. But they never did. So these disappointed Iraqis returned home as traitors, and Saddam used the last of his sarin nerve gas on them, killing them all.

But where did Saddam Hussein get the Sarin nerve gas?

Well, President Ronald Reagan gave it to him several years before. After the United States helped Saddam into power in 1980, they gave him 30,000 lbs of sarin nerve gas and told Saddam to use it against the Iranians. In return, the Iraqis sold America a large quantity of oil. Oil for weapons. Fun Fun Fun.

Years later, Reagan also gave nerve gas to the Iranians... and told them to use it against the Iraqis. In return Iran gave America oil. Oil for weapons. Fun Fun Fun.

Needless to say, the Iran-Iraq war was a horrible massacre of people nerve gassing other people.

The war ended and both Iran and Iraq were still in power of their own countries.

Oops. Apparently the plan to have them kill each other had failed.

So when Iraq attacked Kuwait, it seemed like a great idea. Hey lets attack Iraq and maybe we can get some oil out of this. The previous plan didn't work.

Except Saddam knew what we wanted (oil) so he torched all of Kuwaits oil fields. It took YEARS to put the fires out.

But when the moment came to attack Baghdad and remove Saddam, Bush Senior didn't do it.

Instead he left Saddam alone and sent in weapons inspectors to take away any sarin gas that was left over. The inspectors took what was left and did extra searches to make sure there wasn't any "extra" sarin gas hiding somewhere. They searched for many years, until 1997 when Saddam kicked the inspectors out, saying they weren't there for WMD anymore, they were just spies.

Which was true. Clinton admitted that. He admitted that they had been spies and that they were looking for weapons of mass destruction.

It is these same spies who said "well, there MIGHT be WMD in Iraq... but we haven't found any proof of any".

It was these same spies who George W. Bush later used as evidence that Saddam had WMD that "could be launched within 45 minutes".

Except they were never launched.

In fact, no evidence of weapons of mass destruction have ever been found.

The only thing they found were some "short range ballistic missiles", which would be classified as "weapons of SMALL destruction" and are about as big and as deadly as a car bomb. Thats fairly small compared to the weapons of MASS destruction that Bush and his spies claimed Saddam had.

So WHY did we finally attack Iraq?

If the only thing they possibly could have is sarin gas (which we gave to them), and all of that has apparently already been used up, then Bush's excuse of attacking for WMD isn't really working.

I've got a better reason.
And the funny thing is that this reason is out in the open, right on the CIA website!

You see, I went to the CIA website recently to look up the population of China. The CIA World Factbook is very useful for finding information.

While I was there I decided (just for fun) to look at the stats for the United States too.

It has everything on it... population, death rate, birth rate, religions, etc...

And then I got down to the section about oil production, oil consumption and oil reserves... they even have graphs on it.

# Oil - production: 8.054 million bbl/day (2001 est.)
# Oil - consumption: 19.65 million bbl/day (2001 est.)
# Oil - proved reserves: 22.45 billion bbl (2003 est.)

And I realized... wait a minute... they don't have a lot of oil left, do they?

I did some quick math and even double checked with a calculator to make sure I was right.

The United States uses more oil than they actually produce. The rest of their oil comes from arab countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.

If they continue producing oil at 8.054 million barrels per day and use all of that... that means that they use 2.934 billion barrels of their own oil per year. And they import even more oil from Arab countries to make up the deficit...

But they only have 22.45 billion barrels of their own oil left.

And I was shocked and I realized what was happening. Depending on production, the US will run out of oil in 4 to 7 years and will DEPEND ENTIRELY on arab countries for their oil.

When George W. Bush went to war with Afghanistan and Iraq... he thought he HAD to. The oil companies are desperate for new sources of oil. Without Iraqi oil, the United States would likely face economic collapse in only 4 years. Now that we have Iraqi oil, Bush has managed to save our bacon.

That still doesn't mean it was right to do so however. Attacking another country just for its oil is still bad.

So then I decided to check out the stats for Iraq.

# Oil - production: 2.452 million bbl/day (2001 est.); note - production was disrupted as a result of the March-April 2003 war (2001 est.)
# Oil - consumption: 460,000 bbl/day (2001 est.)
# Oil - proved reserves: 113.8 billion bbl (2003 est.)

Iraq does have other oil reserves too, but they have not been explored and it is uncertain as to how much oil Iraq actually has. Best estimates suggest Iraq has 90% of the world's oil reserves, but nobody knows for sure how much they have.

So even if we extorted as much oil as we can from Iraq and other countries, thats still only enough to keep us in oil until 2012, after which it will run out. (Unless of course, Iraq REALLY does has more oil than we think.)

Electric and hydrogen fuel-cell cars are starting to look really good right now. We don't have much choice either. We either convert quickly to hydrogen fuel-cells, or we simply run out of oil.

The pumps may simply run dry.

And the United States isn't the only country that is low on oil. Britain and Canada will run out of oil reserves around the same time too.

I decided to check how other countries were doing...

Russia (at current production levels) has 20 years of oil left. They have a relative surplus of oil and currently sell quite a bit to Europe and the United States.

China currently buys one third of their oil. The other two thirds come from their own substantial reserves. If they maintain production and continue to buy extra oil, they have 22 years left.

Afghanistan has no oil reserves. They rely entirely on oil that is shipped through American owned pipelines that now run through their country.

Great Britain/The United Kingdom has only 5 years left based on current production levels.

France buys most of their oil. If France was dependent on itself for all its oil, it would run out in half a year.

Germany buys most of their oil. They would run out in a year if they were solely dependent on themselves.

Australia uses very little oil and produce most of their own oil. They have enough to last 13 years.

Japan is so dependent on foreign oil that it would run out in a month if it was dependent on itself.

Canada's supply of oil at current levels will only last 4 years. If Canada stopped selling its oil to the United States, it might last 8 years.

Thankfully now we have access to extra oil from the pipelines in Afghanistan and the oil wells in Iraq.
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To: Bill who wrote (34996)6/29/2005 6:35:55 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Hillary was wrong. The WMD's were destroyed under her husband's command and by the UN inspectors. Hillary apparently believed Bush's lies. Most people did. Were you fooled too? Bet you were.