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To: aladin who wrote (122758)	6/30/2005 8:42:02 PM
From: MrLucky	Respond to of 793838

Don't hold your breath.

To: aladin who wrote (122758)	7/1/2005 8:43:29 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793838

Constructive criticism would offer alternatives. What’s yours? It is very simple. Torturing people and treating bad people badly is not acceptable. Jesus Christ is against it. George Washington is against. Jerry Falwell is against it. And, of course, MSM is against it as well as everyone in academia. Find me anyone who makes a case for torturing people. It is against the law to torture people. The Supreme Court tells us that and everyone in Congress agrees. Of course, there are people who feel good about hurting bad people, but they are wrong. It would be very difficult to teach children that they should not hurt other people only with a list of exceptions. It can't be done.

To: aladin who wrote (122758)	7/1/2005 12:19:39 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 793838

Constructive criticism would offer alternatives. What’s yours? First, let me suggest that we are dealing with something that we (United States) has never dealt with before. The closest analogy is keeping prisoners during the duration of a war, and that's not a close analogy because it seems likely that this war will never end, or at least last for generations. The Bush administration resisted any type of adjudication of the status of our prisoners in Guantanamo until the US judicial system forced their hand. This made sense when the prisoners were freshly captured, and might still have useful information. It made sense when we were still trying to figure things out. But 3 1/2 years later, the time has come to go to Plan B, whatever Plan B is. One might think that we are dealing with something that nobody in the world has dealt with before, but that's not exactly true. The Russians deal with Muslim terrorists in Chechenya, the Indians vis-a-vis Kashmir, the Chinese vis-a-vis Uighur separatists, etc., etc., etc. Muslim terrorists create conflict all over the world. I would suggest an international conference of experts on terrorism and possibly an international treaty on the treatment of captured terrorists, if that could be worked out. Perhaps an internationally run prison? Or at least an understanding among the more significant nations as to what constituted humane confinement. The first step is talking about it, not sweeping it under the rug. And the Bush administration does a terrible job of presenting its case when it comes to tough choices. "My way or the highway" doesn't work when it comes to world opinion.