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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (51426)7/2/2005 11:23:48 AM
From: 10K a day  Respond to of 173976
 
Bush is brilliant



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (51426)7/2/2005 3:08:01 PM
From: geode00  Respond to of 173976
 
It certainly seems that:

1. The majority of Iraqis want us out because they see us as drawing in (Bush after all invited them) terrorists who make their lives miserable. We should treat them as the adults they are and let them sink or swim as they may.

If that means partition or more civil war than there already is...tough. Who knows, without the US keeping a lid (sorta) on things, they'll get serious about their own security.

No one knows how things will play out if we get the heck out of there now. Let the 'sovereign' Iraqi government ask us to leave so that we go while saving some face.

2. We have no end game. Even if we kill or capture every single insurgent and jihadist and drug dealer and mugger in the entire country tomorrow morning, what does Iraq look like then?

The Kurds demand independence and have the militia to keep it. Sunnis will not accept permanent second class status in a theocracy, Iran-Iraq will get closer with a Shiite government and there will be many people out to get revenge for generations of oppression.

This is what we're there for? Republicans keep saying that Dems have no idea but what in the world is the Bush administration's end game for Iraq?

What do WE and THEY get if peace reigns?



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (51426)7/2/2005 4:12:35 PM
From: geode00  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
"Bush's approval ratings, now down to 42 percent from 51 percent after the November elections"

-----So, does that mean if Kerry had come out (as Dean did) and said, we were lied to about the war and I would now obviously vote against the war if I had known about the lies...he would have soundly defeated Bush?



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (51426)7/2/2005 4:28:57 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
The House Of Bush is falling down. Just too bad this didn't happen last summer. Kerry should have been prez and would have saved us from all this waste and misery. Nevertheless, I can't wait to see Rove and DElay in jail and Bush-Cheney resigning like Nixon-Agnew did.

Wonder who they'll appoint as interim president.