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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (239970)	7/4/2005 12:35:07 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576699

Ted, Has AMD ever made money off its lawsuits? Has Intel ever seriously lost a lawsuit.....meaning a huge payout? a) Not much. b) No. As for the 2nd question, isn't the AMD lawsuit based largely on the evidence in a Japanese lawsuit against Intel (which I assume Intel lost)? I thought it was from the conclusions or at least evidence in that case that AMD gets its proof of Intel's monopolistic, predatory behavior with the OEMs.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (239970)	7/4/2005 3:23:55 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576699

In short, AMD isn't succeeding in turning a technical advantage into a business success. What's the explanation? AMD's management, Intel being an "evil monopoly," or some combination of both? It's obvious what I think, but what do you think? ;-) I think their mgmnt must not be good. Its pretty stupid to do another costly lawsuit esp. given INTC's track record with law suits. I also suspect their overall operating costs are higher than INTC's just because of the size difference.......INTC has greater economies due to its size. That probably forces AMD to discount their chips below what is good for their level of operations. ted

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (239970)	7/4/2005 7:55:43 AM
From: Taro	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576699

AMD had not today been competing for with Intel for their platforms if they had not sued Intel way back and paid serious money to get their ways back then. Likewise, anybody involved with doing business with the PC manufacturers worldwide knows quite well about Intel's practices. If AMD doesn't rattle with the sables once every 10-15 years or so, Intel rolls right over them while using methods very close to the limits of what is allowed by the various anti monopoly laws worldwide. Some people even claim they have already over stepped those limits seriously. Of course all of this comes down to producing hard evidence which is not easy. Of course this also is a very costly move for AMD but on the other hand the timing couldn't have been better in Japan and Europe. And if our Dems are right, with them at the helm 3 years from now, AMD may get quite a lift to support their case in the US as well... Taro